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RalphVa

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Anyone have a good, reasonably-priced ebike?

I went looking about a month ago online and found the choices and the prices bewildering.

Ralph
 
   / Good ebike #2  
Anyone have a good, reasonably-priced ebike?

I went looking about a month ago online and found the choices and the prices bewildering.

Ralph

I’ve looked for about a year.

I’m convinced good and reasonably priced are not possible in the same bike.

MoKelly
 
   / Good ebike #3  
Here is an online publication devoted to ebikes:

Cycle Volta
 
   / Good ebike #4  
Check out the "Rad Rover".
I had not been on a bicycle for 40 years, this guy came pedaling up this mountain (like it was nothing) where I was bush hogging, he stopped to ask directions. We got to talking about his ebike.
He almost insisted that I ride it, ok, rode it a couple hundred feet and I was interested.
Played around on the computer that evening, YouTube etc. Then a few months later this showed up.
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$1500, great reviews and I'm fully satisfied both with the bike and the fact that I actually use it (still).
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I've got 165 miles on it and am fortunate to have several miles of decent roads on my property, it's a great way to walk this dog.
 
   / Good ebike #5  
Bunch of questions to help you answer that question....
What is reasonable?
What kind of range are you looking for?
Mid Drive or hub drive (I feel the mid drive is better in the mountains/hills due to the gearing)
Can you service it yourself?
Do you want to ride the street/bike paths or woods?
Are you interested in Class 1, 2 or 3 (Speed/throttle)

I personally have a Giant Stance E+2 mountain bike, and a Specialized Vado "commuter". My wife rides a Specialized Como and LOVES it. The Specialized uses a Brosh mid drive motor, very smooth, strong, and predictable. The Giant uses the Yamaha motor - Strong, with snappy power.

The bigger names have good warranties and can be easily serviced at the local bike shop dealers. Some of the mail order ones are hit and miss, parts can be an issue and long term parts can be a concern. Some use standard stuff (off the shelf) but some don't - those are the ones to be concerned with.

Dont let the questions concern you or deter you, the E-bikes are blast to ride and well worth the effort to find the one that is best for you.
 
   / Good ebike #6  
Here is a few photos to give you some ideas
 

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   / Good ebike #7  
From an avid cyclist that raced for about 15 years, and still logs about 2k miles a year (down from 6-7k), I think your best approach is to treat it like a tractor purchase.

When someone new is shopping for a tractor the common advice is to go in to the dealer, talk to them, tell them what you're looking for, and listen to their advice.

Same thing if you're shopping for a bike for the first time. You'll be surprised what a good bike shop can help you with. For example, the most important thing if just getting into cycling is to spend money on the parts where you contact the bike. A good seat and shorts, good pedals/shoes, and good handlebars/gloves. These are precisely the areas where cheap bikes will skimp. Saving a few extra pounds on the bike, or a motor that runs a little longer is meaningless if you're uncomfortable and miserable.

Just like a tractor, get on a bunch and ride them. There are about 10 different "kinds/models" of bikes that you will find for most major brands. They all serve a purpose, just like tractors, excavators, skid steers, etc. all serve a purpose.

Yes, you can get cheap bikes online, that will get you from point a to b, just like you can buy grey market tractors that will pull just as well.

Just as your relationship with a dealer can be crucial, if you aren't comfortable with the ins/outs of modern bikes, a good shop is equally critical for repairs, advice, etc. It's the difference between waking in with your bike and saying "I ran into this problem" and them saying "sure, let's take a look quick," (and then not charge you) versus "fill out a ticket and we'll call you in 2-3 weeks."

If you buy from a shop, you can also expect, at the least, a free 30 day tune up.

Margins on bikes, like tractors, are pretty low. The huge mark up is on the accessories. So, if you buy some gloves, shoes, and a helmet, water bottles, spare tubes, patch kit, saddle bag, water bottle holders, etc. at the time of purchase, you can also negotiate the price some.

I see you drive a John Deere. If you're looking for similar quality, dealer network, support, etc. I'd recommend sticking with Trek or Specialized. They are like the Kubota/John Deere of bikes. It's hard to go wrong. They will also be very competitively priced with all of the major (not off label) brands. That's not to say there aren't other good brands out there (Cannondale, Giant, etc.) but you're most likely to come across those two brands.
 
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Oh, and just like tractor shops, bike shops can be just as, and even more, snobby.

If you walk in and it's nothing but a bunch of skinny, early 20 guys with shaved legs that take one look at you, and then go back to what they were doing, while ignoring you, just turn around and walk back out.
 
   / Good ebike #9  
The electric dirt bikes are tempting..
 
   / Good ebike #17  
I got the set up from this outfit


Put it on my 15 year old steel frame GT Richter mountain bike.

Couldn't be happier! I put about 1500 miles on last summer just ratting around our local back roads. Road places I've wanted to go for the past 30 years. We have LOTS of hills. I still return home sweaty and spent, just get to father away places while getting that way. ;-)
 
   / Good ebike #18  
No doubt - you still can get a ton of exercise. I mostly run on very low level of assistance until I am hitting some of the steep long hills around here. I rode up to one of the cell towers yesterday (gravel and a 1 mile long STEEP hill) and even thought there was NO way I could have rode that even when I was 20 and in peek shape. On my E-Bike I was still winded and legs were burning but made the climb. That is why I love my E-bike.
 
   / Good ebike #19  
As another ex bike racer I'll agree with RSR. These days the elitist bike shop that only engages with hard core customers is mostly gone (in part because there's way fewer hard core customers than there were 10-15 years ago).

Any decent shop will listen to your needs and steer you towards a bike that will suit them.

The shops in my area often offer discounts on gear bought with bikes, so save room in the budget for helmet shorts gloves jersey glasses water bottles etc.

Cycling whether on road or off is a great sport.
 
   / Good ebike #20  
if you're planning to ride on car roads, please consider getting some really bright orange shirt or windbreaker, be visible!
 

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