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From an avid cyclist that raced for about 15 years, and still logs about 2k miles a year (down from 6-7k), I think your best approach is to treat it like a tractor purchase.

When someone new is shopping for a tractor the common advice is to go in to the dealer, talk to them, tell them what you're looking for, and listen to their advice.

Same thing if you're shopping for a bike for the first time. You'll be surprised what a good bike shop can help you with. For example, the most important thing if just getting into cycling is to spend money on the parts where you contact the bike. A good seat and shorts, good pedals/shoes, and good handlebars/gloves. These are precisely the areas where cheap bikes will skimp. Saving a few extra pounds on the bike, or a motor that runs a little longer is meaningless if you're uncomfortable and miserable.

Just like a tractor, get on a bunch and ride them. There are about 10 different "kinds/models" of bikes that you will find for most major brands. They all serve a purpose, just like tractors, excavators, skid steers, etc. all serve a purpose.

Yes, you can get cheap bikes online, that will get you from point a to b, just like you can buy grey market tractors that will pull just as well.

Just as your relationship with a dealer can be crucial, if you aren't comfortable with the ins/outs of modern bikes, a good shop is equally critical for repairs, advice, etc. It's the difference between waking in with your bike and saying "I ran into this problem" and them saying "sure, let's take a look quick," (and then not charge you) versus "fill out a ticket and we'll call you in 2-3 weeks."

If you buy from a shop, you can also expect, at the least, a free 30 day tune up.

Margins on bikes, like tractors, are pretty low. The huge mark up is on the accessories. So, if you buy some gloves, shoes, and a helmet, water bottles, spare tubes, patch kit, saddle bag, water bottle holders, etc. at the time of purchase, you can also negotiate the price some.

I see you drive a John Deere. If you're looking for similar quality, dealer network, support, etc. I'd recommend sticking with Trek or Specialized. They are like the Kubota/John Deere of bikes. It's hard to go wrong. They will also be very competitively priced with all of the major (not off label) brands. That's not to say there aren't other good brands out there (Cannondale, Giant, etc.) but you're most likely to come across those two brands.
A local bike dealer has e-bike rentals. This lets you try out an e-bike or specific model to see how you like it.
 
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My wife bought a used one last year from an individual. The thing literally got rode once, the lady fell over on it and never got back on it. $500. Look for used one's. Lots of Garage Queens out there with few miles.
 
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Yep, but good bikes are more like the top of the line John Deere vs the cheapest Home Depot lawn tractor outside.....
 
   / Good ebike #28  
A top of the line road race bike or mountain bike is $10k or more and that's without battery assist. If you want high quality it's not cheap. (admittedly once you're above $2-3k for a pedal bike the quality improvement per dollar increase is not nearly as much as it is below that).
 
   / Good ebike #29  
Yep, but good bikes are more like the top of the line John Deere vs the cheapest Home Depot lawn tractor outside.....
And just like your lawn mower comparison, your use, expectations and needs will vary widely from the spandex crowd showing off their latest "look at me" hip gear, to the casual rider simply enjoying their bicycle and the outdoors within their perception of a reasonable budget.
If it were not for these more economical ebike's, they wouldn't be as popular as they are now, and that's a good thing for cyclists in general no matter what your pedaling. 👍
 
   / Good ebike #30  
It went out the window with age and neuropathy.
I'm thinking the bike is an antidote to both age and neuropathy.

Hope springs eternal.............
 
   / Good ebike #31  
I'm looking for one I can run on my 12AH DeWalt Flexvolt batteries, I figure 4 batteries would get me some distance.
 
   / Good ebike #32  
I've started looking at ebikes so my wife and I can go on "walks" with our kids and grandkids. Balance will probably become a concern in the future and it'd be nice to take a picnic lunch to the park, so I've been looking at tricycle ebikes. The bike stores don't seem to carry them and on-line seems to be the only way to get one. I don't like that much because I'd really like to try one out before spending that much money. So I'm still thinking about them and it would be very infrequent use as in one day a month since it would be only used in a city residential area. I don't intend to hijack this thread but want to expand option for people considering ebikes, so if anyone has any suggestions ...
 
   / Good ebike #33  
Those things would last about 5 minutes out here on the dirt roads. I do 'shoeleather' express myself. Exercise is beneficial. Riding on something like that just promotes belly fat.
 
   / Good ebike #34  
And just like your lawn mower comparison, your use, expectations and needs will vary widely from the spandex crowd showing off their latest "look at me" hip gear, to the casual rider simply enjoying their bicycle and the outdoors within their perception of a reasonable budget.
If it were not for these more economical ebike's, they wouldn't be as popular as they are now, and that's a good thing for cyclists in general no matter what your pedaling. 👍
Not disagreeing but sometime you really have to pay to play. On the street, in a flat area about any electric bike is good. Take it to the mountains and start bombing the trails you better spend some money if you want it to last more than one trip.
 
   / Good ebike #35  
I got the set up from this outfit


Put it on my 15 year old steel frame GT Richter mountain bike.

Couldn't be happier! I put about 1500 miles on last summer just ratting around our local back roads. Road places I've wanted to go for the past 30 years. We have LOTS of hills. I still return home sweaty and spent, just get to father away places while getting that way. ;-)
Seeing what appear to.be conversions more and more.

Makes sense since I'm in Castro Valley, home of empowered, just about every day...
 
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It's amazing how many share bicycles were junked when ebikes got popular in China and then how may hundreds of thousands of ebikes, new and used, were junked when share companies overbought. There are mountains of them all over China. These are not tulips, they are just one small field of tens of thousands of junked bikes and ebikes..

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It's amazing how many share bicycles were junked when ebikes got popular in China and then how may hundreds of thousands of ebikes, new and used, were junked when share companies overbought. There are mountains of them all over China. These are not tulips, they are just one small field of tens of thousands of junked bikes and ebikes..

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Completely re -Cycle-able ;-) How did they get the colors to be so pleasant? Organized scrap?

Jumped on my "e-bike" just before supperr. Made a dash down the road and UP the hill. Only about 2 miles one way, but 700 feet of elevation.. Came back winded and refreshed. Needed to talk to the forwarder operator at the logging operation going on there. Waiting on a log load of fuel wood to be delivered... made the deal in January. The sticks are stacked at the landing. Mud season closed the roads, but now they are hard. Maybe the log truck drivers are busy.
 
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I've always been somewhat of a bicyclist, though I don't do it as much as I should *cough cough gasps for breath due to life in general*

I haven't tried an ebike yet but I'm intrigued; I'm guessing that due to the extra weight carried, you pretty much need some electric assist all the time, to varying amounts, except for downhill?
 
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Not a factory build but,

My son just built this one for a friend that asked for a 1 off

26 inch fat tired 48 Volt 35ah Samsung battery, 1500 watt hub motor.
Also outfitted with hydraulic disc brakes.

Test rode it- ran a bit over 40 mph wide open. Very quiet cruising.

The new owner took it on a 35 mile drive immediately


Son gave me his 1st e bike which was really nice riding and stable at speed.
It is now in pieces has a 750 watt motor, stretched frame and needs some new forks and the battery, may take a while till i can get it together again ,
but stoked to have the beginnings of an e bike.
 

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