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   / Goodbye Kubota, hello EarthForce #421  
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<font color=blue>Mike - I hope you realize you've cost me an entire evening mucking about on the Internet looking at noise cancelling ear muffs.</font color=blue>
That's what fellow TBNers are for. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
 
   / Goodbye Kubota, hello EarthForce #422  
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Thanks for all the interesting info MChalkley, it was interesting reading. Doesn't that EF5 run a Kubota diesel?

The Peltor hearing/listening ear protection are great. They have an adjustable microphone that can amplify a bug crawling while cutting out the unwanted noise (of course if bugs crawling around is undesireable, you can just turn off the amp), they are great for many applications.

You are correct about that "not having to look over the shoulder or backwards" comment. Thats what was always so great about skid steers when I used them. The work is in your face, however, I still needed to drive the dang thing backwards and turn around to see what was going to get hit. Yours sounds like a very ideal setup for your applications (as well as many of mine)

A fence guy around here has a Kubota L4310 (ever seen one of them?) with a loader mounted hydraulic auger setup. It is so much nicer then the 3 PH ones and has down pressure to boot. I have yet to figure a great and easy way to attach mine not to mention store it.

He also has a 1200lb Gannon 76" box with hydraulic rippers as a counter weight.

Sounds like the XM27's may not even be needed although knowing you, it'll have them.

I know about this resonant frequency stuff and steel plates, you'll have to work on that, it gets very annoying overtime. A Ditchwitch riding trencher did that to me and it was not so bad at first but by the end of the day I wanted to weld every nook and cranny.

Earth Force owes you some favors, you are a perfect salesman for them, as I said to you before buying my tractor, I took a look, but my needs don't require such a beast although my L48 is proving to have much more power then I first would have thought it to. I use it like a bulldozer with my big ol boxscraper in reverse. Looking over my back is a little wearing, but watching so much dirt get pushed is a blast.

Enjoy your posts, enough get some laughs in at your experiences. It sure beats "what size tractor" or "is this a good price" or "Orange , blue or green?" or our all time favorites, "which BX implements" Nothing wrong with those posts, don't get me wrong, I've just seen so many.
 
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Rat - <font color=blue>Doesn't that EF5 run a Kubota diesel?</font color=blue>
Darn straight it does... /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif A 56hp turbo, in fact...

I anguished between the Peltor and the Ridgeline Pro-Mag Dimension 2 (picture on <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.pro-ears.com/seriesmodel.html#top>this page</A>, second model from top) from Shooters Safety Products in PA. I selected the Pro-Ears model sight-unseen (or hearing-unheard, in this case) because: 1) They use Sound Compression technology instead of sound "clipping". They will amplify anything below 70db (from 0 to 8x in 4 levels), and reduce the level of anything above 72db. The net effect is that you can hear everything all the time, whereas clipping cuts everything off when a loud noise is present. 2) Independently adjustable volume, instead of a single volume adjustment 3) 5 year warranty, instead of 6 months 4) Howard Leight, a highly respected presence in the ear protection field, has licensed the Pro-Ears technology for use in their own headset. 5) 200 hour battery life instead of 50. 6) NRR of 26, instead of 24. So much for the theory. I should have them sometime next week, at which point I'll know how well they work in practice. An interesting sidelight is that the Dimension 2 has provision for radio input, so you can control its volume using the radio, and the volume of everything else with the volume control knobs on the headset. Sure would be cool for listening to a scanner at a NASCAR race...

I don't think my EF-500 is going to get Michelins until the tires on it wear out, but it'll have them eventually. Hey, I dug holes with the tires, so I need more traction, right? /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

It sounds like that 1200-lb Gannon would be a great counter-weight. I know that having several thousand pounds of backhoe/sideshift mount on the tail will sure hold the EF-500's backside on the ground. I haven't been able to get the rear wheels off the ground yet...

So you know exactly the feeling on the resonance noise, I see. With the EF-500, at just the right engine speed, it'll just about clear your sinuses... It's mostly like drinking iced tea with the spoon still in the glass: If it hurts, don't do it. But sometimes I found that I just had to run the engine at that exact speed for a little and it got annoying really fast.

Reading about you getting a kick out of pushing dirt reminded me of something I noticed quite a bit on this last project. I mentioned this before, but I'm still surprised at the ability of the EF-500 to push dirt/gravel/whatever around. As with the pulling issue, I had expected this to be the weak link with the EF machine, since the tires are so small (compared to the monsters I had on the L4310), only a little more hp (and a lot more weight, excluding ballast), and no multi-range differential to multiply the torque (there is a 2-to-1 transfer case, and each weel does have 6-to-1 planetaries, but top speed still isn't much less than the L4310 in high range), I'm just amazed that it'll push so much more material around than the L4310 would. My ex-engineer Kubota-owning friend and neighbor isn't nearly so surprised as I am. He says the smaller diameter tires are able to get an enormously greater amount of torque to the ground. Something about a shorter moment-arm or something like that... Clearly, the EarthForce engineers ballanced things pretty well. Well enough to impress me, anyway.

Thanks for reading my musings - it's nice to know an orange "true believer" can enjoy reading about a silver, er, pink, machine, too. /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif
 
   / Goodbye Kubota, hello EarthForce #424  
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Mark:
Keep us posted on the noise suppressors. I haven't yet plumbed in my second muffler on the 1845. If I forget to put earplugs in, there is no delay in noticing.
 
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Charlie - <font color=blue>Keep us posted on the noise suppressors.</font color=blue> You bet. If the noise suppression headsets work well, you may prefer them to the muffler, because I suspect a lot of the noise from the air-cooled Deutz (that's what yours has, right?) is coming directly from the block.

I haven't forgotten about your solenoid valve, either - I just haven't found it yet.
 
   / Goodbye Kubota, hello EarthForce #426  
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<font color=blue>I suspect a lot of the noise from the air-cooled Deutz (that's what yours has, right?) is coming directly from the block.</font color=blue>

Mark: It is a Deutz. Although certainly the oil cooled block is noisier than one with water jackets, the muffler is small and identifiable exhaust noise is loud. To plumb another muffler to it I have to modify the engine cover, which will take a bit of doing, and build a mount for another muffler. Somehow other projects are more fun, so you may be right that the muffs are the answer.
I hope the valve turns up, but if not, let me know and I'll give WR Long a call.
 
   / Goodbye Kubota, hello EarthForce #427  
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Say Mark... nice finish on that paint! /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif
 

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   / Goodbye Kubota, hello EarthForce #428  
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Is that the type that looks different with different lighting angles?? Does it glow in the dark from the LED reflections?
 
   / Goodbye Kubota, hello EarthForce #429  
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<font color=blue>nice finish on that paint!</font color=blue>

I'll second that. Good attention to detail, too.
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Wow, Mark! Even the forum master is taking shots. I guess there's just something about you and your machine. /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif
 
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Harv - Aw, Muhammad is just sore because he had finally decided, after years of waffling (it's a little known fact that Muhammad started TBN so he could get free advice on what kind of tractor to buy...), to buy a certain model tractor, then found out from reading about the EarthForce that he was about to end up with an "inferior" machine. So now he's back to waffling again, and he still doesn't have tractor. /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif
 
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