Gooseneck dump trailer

[Hay Dude]

So I sold my 10ton dump truck and replacing with a 20k + gooseneck dump trailer.
Looking at 16' long, dual tandem, deck over, with 18-20" fold down sides. Possible that I could be buying a triple axle with single tires, but I don't love that front axle scrub.
Will be carrying round bales, dirt, stone, firewood and construction debris. Occasionally I will be hauling a skid steer, so I'll need the ramps.

Looked at several brands. Load Max, Load Trail, Appalachian, Big Tex, Bri Mar, PJ and BWise on the upper end.
I already have a Big Tex 30' dual tandem gooseneck. I like it a lot, but after 5 years, I am beginning to chase paint deterioration with the rattle can.

If they are all spec'd out with similar builds, similar deck heights, Dexter axles, and similar radial tires, it seems like the only mystery left is how it was welded, prepped and painted. Yes I realize welding quality is a factor, too, but is any one brand PAINTED significantly better than the other?

My Big Tex has been awesome. With a great paint job, it'd be even better.

Anyone have a brand of dump trailer that has held up well? They all look good new-anyone have one they'd highly recommend after 3-5 years of use?

 

[oliver1555]

Have you looked into 17.5 tires? A true truck tire with high capacity.
17.5" Trailer Wheels & Tires - PJ Trailers - YouTube

 

[RichM752]

I'm partial to Lamar.

Lamar 8x16' Triple Axle Gooseneck Deckover Dump 4' High Sides GDO961637 - YouTube

 

[Morning Wood]

I think all trailer paint jobs pretty much suck.
Be careful with the fold down sides. I have those and you really have to baby the interior or denting can cause spillage issues because the tolerances have to be pretty tight to make a good seal from the floor to the side. You also can’t control some operators even if you tell them ahead of time to be real careful loading

 

[nikerret]

The problem is most of them do powder coat. Powder coat is great, until it is compromised, then, it flakes off. You can’t repaint as the paint won’t bond to the powder coat and steel gap, always leaving the next place to flake.

I got mine done in automotive paint. Easily grinned off to be welded in and repainted. The hard part is finding a good company that still uses automotive paint.

 

[Barnbuilder]

I dont own one but looking at Midsota. Offer 10k axles with super singles and other nice options.

 

[4570Man]

I don’t know of there’s any advantage to the 17.5s for low mileage applications or not. I’d be inclined to keep my duels for lower ground pressure. My loaded 10 ton makes pretty bad ruts off road. There’s zero chance I’d have a 3 axel trailer. My tandom scrubs bad enough. If I could find a trailer with a single 20,000 pound axel I’d like to have that.

 

[Hay Dude]

Appalachian does primer & paint, but as of my last call to them, no folding sides.

 

[oliver1555]

I don’t know of there’s any advantage to the 17.5s for low mileage applications or not.

The advantage is running four single tires with the same or more capacity of 16” duals - 4,000# to 6000# capacity, depending on the tire. For example: Provider 235/75R17.5 Radial Trailer Tire - Load Range J Taskmaster Tires and Wheels P35175
Plus, no rocks getting wedged between duals, flats are rare, lower replacement cost, and the list goes on. We switched to 17.5 tires on trailers in the oil patch and would never go back. Three axle trailers used for off road haven’t worked out well.

 

[Morning Wood]

My cam superline dump is painted.

 

[AZTimT]

I was in the same boat as you 6 months ago and I went with Midsota and I highly recommend them.
Midsota trailers are painted with PPG, not powdercoated like most of the southern built trailers. They also have a galvanized option.
Their 10K axles are not hand assembled dexter but instead computer assembled Lippert with very consistent modern day build quality.

 

[MickeyDBC]

I have a Parker dual tandem deckover with 4' sides. Trailer works great but gets a little bouncy when loaded up, but I think that is the nature of the beast. Trailer is about 4 years old and we use it mostly for compost and mulch for the orchard and it will hold over 18 yards when loaded up. Only downside is it is like pulling a giant parachute behind the truck - mileage has been as low as 8.5 on the Ford. No stability or towing problems, but a dually is recommended. I highly recommend getting a power tarp setup - trying to tarp something this tall (even with just 2' sides) would truly suck especially if there is a little wind.

 

[QRTRHRS]

I used to have a 16' Bri-Mar tandem dually that I had bought used in 08'. Typical powder coat paint but metal work and welding top notch in my eyes anyway. It did not have ramps but what with the bed floor being maybe four feet off of the ground, it would have not been for the faint of heart to load a piece of equipment on. Not to mention some pretty stout ramps. It pulled and handled well with my 12v Dodge as long as I kept the fuel filter clean. Much better with my FL70, the bed of which you can see in the following photo.

 

[Hay Dude]

I found one with a 8k axles and 19,200 gvwr, which is probably enough, but the "cut & rut" 17.5 singles are a problem for me.

 

[Redlands Okie]

Midsota and Maxxd both make trailors that probably fit your needs.

 

[Hay Dude]

I don't think Midsota offers a trailer with 96" of clear span between the sides

 

[farmalldx33]

One third of my trailer fleet is PJ and I would highly recommend them. My dump trailer is 8 years old and is used for commercial landscaping. Has held up very well.

 

[fried1765]

The problem is most of them do powder coat. Powder coat is great, until it is compromised, then, it flakes off. You can稚 repaint as the paint won稚 bond to the powder coat and steel gap, always leaving the next place to flake.

I got mine done in automotive paint. Easily grinned off to be welded in and repainted. The hard part is finding a good company that still uses automotive paint.

My 20' equipment trailer is powder coated, and I do agree with the chipping issue.
I did not choose powder coating. The new trailer came that way.
That said: Two part marine epoxy paint seems to work very well to touch up chipped powder coating.
If I could get a new trailer completely coated with two part marine epoxy I would be a happy guy.
Nearly all new trailers and implements seem to have cheap paint work.

There is a wonderful two part product available called "Amerkok-400" by the Ameron Corp (PPG in USA)).
It is an industrial product, so is not sold by retailers.
PPG distributors have it throughout the USA, but it ain't cheap.
I have used it on steel, and on concrete (garage floor).
It is often used on water towers, and steel bridges.
I put two coats on our salt water spalled concrete sea wall 15 years ago, and it still looks great.

 

[joeu235]

I had a Load Trail 14K gooseneck dump trailer. I had it overloaded (farm plates) multiple times hauling gravel and it didn't care. I sold it because I didn't use it enough, but the thing was very well built.
I have a Big Tex 20K gooseneck and I believe the build quality of the Load Trail was better.

I've never really cared about the paint, the trailer is a tool and paint doesn't affect functionality. Dad has a 1992 32' gooseneck without almost no paint left and it still hauls just fine.

 

[Hay Dude]

Found a Load Trail triple 7K axle trailer at a great price. Has oversized scissor hoist, dual jacks and primer paint. $10,995 21,000 GVWR.
Seems you can't get a dual tandem with fold down sides and 96" width between sides, so it looks like a triple axle single wheel is probably going to be my only realistic choice.
Also found a BWise dual 8k oil bath axle single wheel dual hydraulic jacks, too which is a really nice trailer for $13,300. 19,200 GVWR

$2,300 buys a lot of fuel, insurance, etc.