Grapple Grapple Rake prices

   / Grapple Rake prices #31  
You can get all this stuff from internet discount suppliers and that is definitely the cheapest way to go (you'll save at least half). However, and this is a big however, it is very easy to get confused with what types of fittings etc if you haven't done it before. It might be a good investment to work with a local shop that can make sure everything is compatable.

If you go to a local supplier, it is:

1) easy to take in the connections you need to couple to

2) easy to take it back if they make a mistake.

For me (if I can find a local shop), it's probably worth doing local.

An inbetween alternative would be to have the your tractor supplier make up the hoses for you. They should know what's on your tractor and hopefully the grapple supplier can tell you what connectors they shipped.

Ken
 
   / Grapple Rake prices #32  
maknwine?
I tried to find specs on your tractor? How big is it, HP and weight. Rear ballast will be a must or loaded tires. How much does that 66" grapple weigh?

What some people do when they run lines from the back to the front is run the lines to a bulkhead connection that is mounted on the FEL someplace. This keeps things neat and makes it easier to hook up and remove.

Wedge
 
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#33  
Hey, we already went thru all the line sizes, connections, I even got the 90 b/c I.T. recommended it, etc., etc....remember all the trouble I had with the hose shop. Sorry you had to do all that typing Island Tractor.

Anyway, I just want to see the "bulkhead" connection at the front of the loader.

Wedge, its a T2410, 55 HP, rears are loaded, and bare tractor weight is 3408 lbs.

I've used the grapple to pop out some choke cherry trees and it worked good. I can see that a lighter one would do just as good and not be so heavy. I may end up trying to sell it and get a 48". Although, the manual for the tractor suggest a 66" is doable...it recommends 60",66", or 72". Although, it doesn't have a recommended weight so sizes given is probably not the most important factor to consider. I may advertise it locally on CL and see what happens.

I'm going to search on bulkhead and see what I get. Tks
Tom
 
   / Grapple Rake prices #34  
Sorry, I forgot it was the same thread on line sizes etc.

I have long advocated for 48 inch light duty grapples for just about any CUT up to 50hp. To my knowledge no one has ever complained that they wish they'd gotten a bigger one and quite a few with bigger grapples have wished they had a lighter and narrower one. The 48 inch grapples are easily tough enough to deal with CUTs. I might not want something that light on a skidsteer but that as they say is a different kettle of fish.

Photo of a granite rock that a light duty grapple on my Kioti DK40se/KL401 not only lifted but actually tore out of the ground where it was buried except for about six inches. I did not know it was this big but wanted it out as I kept hitting it with my mower. Latched on, wiggled it a bit and then curled/lifted it out. Grapple did just fine.
 

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   / Grapple Rake prices #35  
Hey, we already went thru all the line sizes, connections, I even got the 90 b/c I.T. recommended it, etc., etc....remember all the trouble I had with the hose shop. Sorry you had to do all that typing Island Tractor.

Anyway, I just want to see the "bulkhead" connection at the front of the loader.

Wedge, its a T2410, 55 HP, rears are loaded, and bare tractor weight is 3408 lbs.

I've used the grapple to pop out some choke cherry trees and it worked good. I can see that a lighter one would do just as good and not be so heavy. I may end up trying to sell it and get a 48". Although, the manual for the tractor suggest a 66" is doable...it recommends 60",66", or 72". Although, it doesn't have a recommended weight so sizes given is probably not the most important factor to consider. I may advertise it locally on CL and see what happens.

I'm going to search on bulkhead and see what I get. Tks
Tom

This place is a gold mine of info.. Sometime you have search and read through a lot to find exactly what you're looking for. But in the process you often learn about many new things.

I thought your tractor was in that HP range. I have an old 67' Ford 4000, new it's about 50hp, but since mine needs some TLC I'm guessing I have about 35-40 man. I got the 48" from Markham. As a matter of fact I was one of the first to get their small grapple designs. My lower tines dont have "teeth" but I dont think that makes much difference. Islandtractor has some great ideas about grapple sizing that I thought were very logical. So I went with the 48". I'm currently running my hydraulic lines from the back to front and just bungy cording everything in place. I have the bulkhead connectors and bracket. I just need to drill and tap the holes in the FEL to mount the bracket
I will search of the bulkhead links I used as an example and try to post them here.
Here is a thread that I found interesting. Very basic designs.
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/107081-grapple-hoses.html

Wedge
 
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#36  
Tks for posting Wedge, I stayed up till about 0100 hrs last night/this a.m. searching and saw that same thread you linked up.

I guess it just depends on what you have as far as places to mount on the FEL. If I can find my digital camera cord I'll post up some pics of where I want to mount it.

Tks I'll keep searching.
 
   / Grapple Rake prices #37  
Sorry, I forgot it was the same thread on line sizes etc.

I have long advocated for 48 inch light duty grapples for just about any CUT up to 50hp. To my knowledge no one has ever complained that they wish they'd gotten a bigger one and quite a few with bigger grapples have wished they had a lighter and narrower one. The 48 inch grapples are easily tough enough to deal with CUTs. I might not want something that light on a skidsteer but that as they say is a different kettle of fish.

Photo of a granite rock that a light duty grapple on my Kioti DK40se/KL401 not only lifted but actually tore out of the ground where it was buried except for about six inches. I did not know it was this big but wanted it out as I kept hitting it with my mower. Latched on, wiggled it a bit and then curled/lifted it out. Grapple did just fine.

WOW! I like landscape rocks. Could you deliver that to my place? LOL
 
   / Grapple Rake prices #38  
One thing I haven't figured out, is why not use the lines already feeding the FEL and just add another valve with QDs?
 
   / Grapple Rake prices #39  
One thing I haven't figured out, is why not use the lines already feeding the FEL and just add another valve with QDs?

Diverter valves or electric over hydraulic valves using the existing FEL circuits are quite popular. They cost a lot more than using rear remotes but have other advantages.
 
   / Grapple Rake prices #40  
I would also think that using a diverter valve on the FEL controls also prevents you from using bucket functions (e.g. tilt, rollback) when you have the diverter active. Right?

Ken
 
 

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