Are you trying to start an arguement..... if you put the holes up, then the water can drain into the pipe directly, but it will not be able to disperse the water that is in the bottom of the pipe... if you put the holes down, the pipe can drain, but won't fill as fast. If you want the best of both worlds, then drill holes at the bottom of the pipe before you install it with the holes up.... This alone should be good for an additional 15 - 20 posts....... and your opinion is????????