Great wire rope trick

[atgreene]

bx, thanks for the trick.

If anyone doesn't have enough common sence to comprehend what is safe and what is beyond their meger ability they should stay in their office cubicle.

Equipment is dangerous, if you don't have a grasp of physics, strength of materials and common sence than perhaps tractors, farms and the outdoors are not for you.

 

[bx24]

bx24 you are sending out wrong info that will get someone hurt. LIKE it or NOT thats a fact. IF you have experience with wire rope you say you have why do you want to post this? add to it?
You have played the odds an won on your duct tape thing. I feel very strongly about this as I have seen the pics of what happens when wire rope breaks and people LOSE in that equation.
I am done on this post. like I said before wire rope will kill you, its no joke.

Upon txslowpoke advice, please ignore this post and all information contained within. May I also recommend to be safe that you stay away from any motorized equipment because if used improperly, injury or death could result.

I think both the facts and and plenty of opinions have been effectively expressed and the readers can decide for themselves. If you ever need to pull or lift anything, I would suggest that you take time to research the proper safe behaviors. Don't get lax, I can guarantee thats when accidents will happen. Caveat Emptor! (Let the buyer beware)

One last thing, since this post has gone so well, I wanted to give you folks a sneak peek at the next thing that I am going to encourage all of you to build ..... I feel that this one will not draw as much controversy

YouTube - WORLDS FASTEST LOGSPLITTER

I am still OK with accepting dollars!

 

[kidr]

I am still OK with accepting dollars![/QUOTE]

 

[sandman2234]

Just thought I would throw my two cents into this pile of change.
I worked in a wire mill, for just over 15 years, and about 7 of that was in the Quality Control Department. We got in and out of the Wire Rope business a couple of times during my QC days. I would not attempt to test that original loop splice as it was done, because it would probably be a waste of my time to set it up. However, for general work around my house, I might throw something like that together just to pull something out of the weeds, etc. My opinion is that loop will not stand 100% of the rating of the cable it is being used on. Will it hold enough for what you want to do with it, that is up to you to decide, but no way am I going to splice it like that.
That is a good idea, fast and easy for loops that need to hold partial loads, but that loop won't be the one to use under 100 % loads.
Back to my soapbox.
David from jax

 

[BigE_]

BX24,

Thanks for the great tip. Those of us who have studied and understand physics (friction and mechanical advantage) can understand how your system works.

No, I'm not going to drag out the equations and formulas to prove why and how it works.

Those who don't understand it don't have to use it, plain and simple. Yes, if done improperly, it can be dangerous. Life can be dangerous...

I, for one, appreciate you sharing and encourage you to do so again. If you had a paypal account, I'd ship you the $1.

Regards,
-Steve

 

[Dunham Farm]

Think about how a ski lift cable is tied together. I worked at 2 ski areas and helped put a few together. each strand is spaced out over many feet.
Brian

 

[cityfarma]

BX24,

Those of us who have studied and understand physics (friction and mechanical advantage) can understand how your system works.

I thought I understood physics and friction. I am obviously wrong as I still think the loop is far less than 100%.


Cityfarma

 

[jsborn]

I thought I understood physics and friction. I am obviously wrong as I still think the loop is far less than 100%.


Cityfarma

And I am going to get the last word in or take my ball and go home.

Guys I don't know if you relise it but there have beeen a lot of good people driven away from this forum because some people can't just express their opinion and let it go. Opinion's are just what they are and we should all be a little more open to others . We don't have to agree but when it get to name calling and put downs thats too much GROW UP.

Now you all can flame me.

 

[EdKing]

One last thing, since this post has gone so well, I wanted to give you folks a sneak peek at the next thing that I am going to encourage all of you to build ..... I feel that this one will not draw as much controversy

I don't really have a comment on the splice, but that log splitter looks pretty scary to me. :0

 

[SPYDERLK]

And I am going to get the last word in or take my ball and go home.

Guys I don't know if you relise it but there have beeen a lot of good people driven away from this forum because some people can't just express their opinion and let it go. Opinion's are just what they are and we should all be a little more open to others . We don't have to agree but when it get to name calling and put downs thats too much GROW UP.

Now you all can flame me.

My opinion is that the facts are correct - loads are shared by the strands carrying the load.
In a loop there are twice as many strands, therefore the potential to be twice as strong as the rope. Since, even in an extremely well done loop, the strands dont share perfectly equally you will not get 2X....... Maybe 1.9X in a good one. The thing is there is a lot of surplus to play with. Even a verrry bad one will give 1.2X as long as the dead end is controlled enuf to prevent slip and you dont damage the live side in some way. Thats an experience or common sense thing that is preassumed of the user.
larry