hauling a 8,000lb tractor

[adirondackmtnman]

VA is getting bad with salt. They use that stupid brine water to pretreat. What a mess that stuff makes. I guess it is not as bad as what you deal with. Usually we stay away from anything from PA and farther north.

NYSDOT actually started using the brine up here in northern NY a few years ago, and for the weather we get, it cuts down a quite a bit on the salt they use after a significant snowfall event, as the road comes cleaner after the plows pass, and prevents the slush from re-freezing. When the do pour on the rock salt, it always makes me cringe, because you can hear it getting picked up by the tires and chipping the crap out of the bottom of your vehicle. I think the worst product used to treat the roads up here is a town that uses ore-sand left over from the iron mines in their town. It gets everywhere, and is especially fond of finding its way to the top of fuel tanks and rotting out the top of the sending units. Pleasant stuff...

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[Badgerland01]

Curious, has anyone done this? Or know of anyone that has. I've never really heard of this being done on a pickup. I'm used to it on my big rig.

I have seen it done on TRUCKS tv show and it looked pretty slick, but never in real life. They had the self leveling kit on it also. I had the air bag overloads on my f150 crew cab and they were amazing. With 2500 lbs in the bed, air up the bags to 100 psi and it would sit level and ride like a cadillac. My farmer buddy would regularly haul 5000 lbs in his 3/4 ton bed but those bags were much larger than the 1/2 ton version. I think a half ton properly equipped could pull your trailer, but it isn't going to enjoy it. And those 12000 lb towing ratings are usually the regular cab 1/2 tons. Adding the crew cab reduces that. If you have to spend the money how about getting a 1/2 ton and keeping the duramax for towing?

 

[powerstroke444e]

Curious, has anyone done this? Or know of anyone that has. I've never really heard of this being done on a pickup. I'm used to it on my big rig.

I bought a 2012 f350 xl with 17's and the ride is better than several buddies f250 lariat trucks with 20's.
As for air ride rear end the local ford dealer has done it on a few trucks most f450 or 550 and one I rode in was much better than the spring trucks.

 

[sd455dan]

Here you go.

I couldn't help but notice your avatar shows the tractor with a loader , so is there a chance that hauling the tractor, loader and say brush cutter or even backhoe are a possibility??
If so- throwing out the 8 k load is a possibility??? and total load on the trailer could be as high as 10,000#s +

If so can't imagine getting rid of the Duramax.... unless to buy a new 3/4 ton or larger???

 

[newbury]

VA is getting bad with salt. They use that stupid brine water to pretreat. What a mess that stuff makes. I guess it is not as bad as what you deal with. Usually we stay away from anything from PA and farther north.

Yes, but big differences are freeze-thaw and frequency.

We (from Alexandria to Bristol, Va) get FAR fewer days when salt is spread than in Maine. When I lived in Burlington, VT we could expect measurable snow/ice requiring salting the roads from late October thru early May, often several times a week.
Here in Northern VA it's more like several times a YEAR.

Then there's the frequency of freeze thaw, which really causes the rust to flake. Again Maine wins for reducing cars to piles of rust.

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I couldn't help but notice your avatar shows the tractor with a loader , so is there a chance that hauling the tractor, loader and say brush cutter or even backhoe are a possibility??
If so- throwing out the 8 k load is a possibility??? and total load on the trailer could be as high as 10,000#s +

If so can't imagine getting rid of the Duramax.... unless to buy a new 3/4 ton or larger???

He also lists a 7.5 ft snowblower. We need to take him at his word that he is carrying 8,000 lbs and isn't going to load on a few tons of gravel to spread along with everything else. He sure has room for it.

And OP - I've got room down in Mississippi in a nice enclosed shop for that Duramax if it needs to retire

 

[flyingcow]

I couldn't help but notice your avatar shows the tractor with a loader , so is there a chance that hauling the tractor, loader and say brush cutter or even backhoe are a possibility??
If so- throwing out the 8 k load is a possibility??? and total load on the trailer could be as high as 10,000#s +

If so can't imagine getting rid of the Duramax.... unless to buy a new 3/4 ton or larger???

Got rid of the backhoe, But with the FEL and BH I think I'd be over the 8,000lb theory.

Chances are i will stay with what i got or go to a 3/4 ton.

 

[flyingcow]

Yes, but big differences are freeze-thaw and frequency.

We (from Alexandria to Bristol, Va) get FAR fewer days when salt is spread than in Maine. When I lived in Burlington, VT we could expect measurable snow/ice requiring salting the roads from late October thru early May, often several times a week.
Here in Northern VA it's more like several times a YEAR.

Then there's the frequency of freeze thaw, which really causes the rust to flake. Again Maine wins for reducing cars to piles of rust.

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He also lists a 7.5 ft snowblower. We need to take him at his word that he is carrying 8,000 lbs and isn't going to load on a few tons of gravel to spread along with everything else. He sure has room for it.

And OP - I've got room down in Mississippi in a nice enclosed shop for that Duramax if it needs to retire

Maybe in mid winter we'll ride down and see how it fits.

We basically figure(winter starts) 1st of nov to end of April before the salt sand or brine is done being put on the roads. I have aluminum tanks on my big rig, we don;t polish them until early to mid june. Before that, every time it rains it just burns the shine off the splashing of the road way. Salt/brine,etc isn't washed off the roads until then.

 

[Topkicker]

I'm jumping in here kinda late. Read most of the posts. If your wanting a 1/2 ton ride and want to pull that much weight, I'd go drive a new Chevy/GMC 3/4 ton. We went to a box frame a couple of years back and the ride is amazing compared to the C channel frame we were using. The IFS and hub assembly (including rotors) are much beefier also. I think it will give you the ride quality you are after.

 

[DocDiesel]

Curious, has anyone done this? Or know of anyone that has. I've never really heard of this being done on a pickup. I'm used to it on my big rig.

R4Tech by Sanluis Rassini

I want to do it with my F250, but the street price of $2,000 without installation is holding me back.

 

[CJONE]

My tractor is close to 8K with the attachments and the 150 does good with it, I would not tow in the mountains with it. I only have the 5.4 in a crewcab and with that much weight it is underpowered for any large hills. The rest of the truck does good, does not sag too much and it does not feel like it is too much for the truck. No swaying or duck walking. I just upgraded my 18' 10k trailer to a 22' 14k so we will see how it tows with that. If I bought a new truck it would be the f-150 crew with either the eco-boost or the 5.0. I think the 6.2 would not be necessary unless you were towing all the time. We have been averaging 17 mpg+ with all our 5.0 in the 1/2 tons and that is winter and summer. CJ