Have gun will Tractor (long)

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BobReeves

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After buying our property last fall, this summer has been my first experience mowing/hogging field grass. The first time I mowed I was pretty amazed at how many field mice and rats I scared up which started me thinking about some way to do the critters in while I was on the tractor. The thread about packing while tractoring and discovering that CCI makes shot shells in 9MM really got me motivated.

Back in the 70's when I lived in California and did allot of trout fishing my snake gun was a Colt 45 single action loaded with shot. I had acquired an extra barrel which I smooth bored and my cartridge of choice was reloaded cut down 410 shells. Worked like a charm even though it was illegal as all get out. Any smooth bore gun is a shotgun by the legal definition and then falls under the minimum barrel length laws.

Knowing that a rifled barrel and shot shells do not produce the most desirable results I sat out to find an old worn out barrel for my Browning 9MM auto. A couple of phone calls and a friend of a friend later I had my barrel and the price couldn't be beat (free). Chucked the thing in my drill press and drilled it out to about 8.5MM then went in with a 9MM reamer to clean up the bore. Went to a gun shop and bought a couple of boxes of CCI ammo and a cheap holster I could strap to the tractor. If you do this you are breaking the law, can't imagine an ATF agent going after a guy shooting rats from a tractor but you never know.

Now I am all set but wanted to compare the smooth bore barrel with a stock barrel to see what the difference was and what I could expect out of 9MM shot shells. The attached picture pretty much tells the story.

The pattern on the left is with the stock barrel the one on the right is with the special barrel. Both were shot at exactly 10 feet. This is the back side of a piece of fiber board I was using for a target, it was hard to tell where the shot hit on the front side but you can sure tell on the back. The pattern out of the smooth bore is about 5 1/5 inches in diameter and the one from the stock barrel is about 22 inches in diameter. The big hole in the center is from the plastic casing the shot is loaded in. I believe this will more than double the effective range. At 10 feet with a rifled barrel you can see holes in the pattern big enough to miss a mouse even if your aim was accurate.

The only problem so far is the CCI shells are not powerful enough to cycle the action of my Browning. The hammer gets cocked but the spent cartridge isn't ejected. Next step is to get a spare slide spring and start cutting a few turns off to see if I can't find the right combination that will work with the CCI ammo. However because I am a law abiding citizen I have destroyed the smooth bore barrel /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 

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   / Have gun will Tractor (long) #2  
Where is the sport in shooting a mouse with a 9mm shotgun pistol? I use a Browning Buckmark .22 with hollowpoints for tractor mounted rodent shooting while bush hogging. If you can shoot a mouse with a .22 from a moving tractor, you can hit anything. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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No sport about it, I want them suckers dead, if I could just figure out how to make it full auto /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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Why not just get an el cheapo youth model 410? These are usually short in length, inexpensive, and legal.

Personally, I leave field mice for the hawks. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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If you see a bunch of guys w/ a big "ATF" at the end of your driveway..

I might think about deleting this post.. admitting making illegal firearms.. is just as bad as them catching you red-handed.. I'm sure it's a felony.. they'll take your guns and your machine shop equipment.
 
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Here it is illegal to carry an uncased gun on a tractor, car, or pickup.

I found out that mowing the field grass the first time turned up a ton of field mice and voles. But the hawks could then see them, or their runways, and cleaned them up pretty quickly. Ridding them with a gun would take a lot of shots. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

With my .22, I find that the Federal bird shot is many times better than the .22 CCI shotshell. I use the bird shot .22 for ground squirrels and sparrows that won't leave the bluebirds alone.
 
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Ya too bad the bad guys and idiots have made it necessary for our law makers to pass laws that keep the good guys from having a little fun.

Sad to say the smooth bore barrel is history....
 
   / Have gun will Tractor (long) #8  
Shotgun in a scabbard on the fender. Real handy for on the fly shots at 4 wheelers. Very pesky critters and do more damage than mice by far.
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Here it is illegal to carry an uncased gun on a tractor, car, or pickup )</font>

I'm glid i live in florida, where it is still legal to carry a legal firearm on your property, or carry a concealed firearm ( where legal ) with a license.

A gun in a holster, on your property mowing would be legal as well.. just like hunting from horseback / atv.. etc.

Wouldn't it be nice if state/county gun laws all complied with the federal minimums.. and then just let the law abiding citizens alone a little more.

Soundguy
 
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Soundguy, 2 questions:

Would a tractor be considered a vehicle?

Can one legally shoot at an animal from a vehicle in FL?

Not sure what the technicalities are, but I am glad I still live and have land in states that aren't too regulated yet either.

Yet may be the key word here. It is sad that a few screw things up for the majority though.

Due to the remoteness of my property, I am usually carrying more for the 2 legged animals than the 4. Had some uninvited 4 wheelers try to tell me what they could and could not do on my property, that is, up until they realized it was NOT 4 (them) against 1 (me) /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 

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