Have you ever thought about changing the central air conditioner?

   / Have you ever thought about changing the central air conditioner? #51  
That function would have come in handy when my wife was going through menopause. I could see her walking from heat to cool...

Other than that, I personally have no use for heat and cooling in different rooms at the same time. I understand there could be circumstances for others though.
 
   / Have you ever thought about changing the central air conditioner? #52  
"Mini Split" has become the generic term used for an Air-Source Heat Pump, ducted or ductless. They do in fact make 'Ducted Mini-Splits' and are named that way.
Ducted mini splits are generally a dedicated horizontal unit either used in a multi zone application (low static generally around a .3 or .4) or a dedicated 1 to 1 dedicated horizontal ducted unit that runs on a higher static, pushing around a .8

You also have a dedicated 4 way multi position ducted air handler (high static) that runs 1 to 1 which is NOT called a mini split.

When people see a horizontal discharge condensing unit, they automatically think "mini split" which can be far from the case.

You can now also run a 4 way ducted air handler WITH a ductless indoor unit. Various manufactures have them out now, but generally they some variance of of name for them.
 
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   / Have you ever thought about changing the central air conditioner? #53  
Other than that, I personally have no use for heat and cooling in different rooms at the same time. I understand there could be circumstances for others though.
Depending on where you live in the country, size and load of your home, you can have some decent temperature swings in different areas of the house.

I have a 3 story house, one system for each story, no problem.

Where it can become a problem is between levels of floors and opposite ends of the house, particularly with window space and how the house is pointing direction wise.

Up north above New York and south below South Carolina, generally there isn't a problem. The problems generally appear in the spring and fall where temps are moderate and can swing either way in the "mid tier states".

Thing is, with zoning, these types of issues can easily be rectified. However, if you're using a "multi zone ductless mini split system" you can be screwed very easily because even though some systems do allow you to utilize a auto changeover mode, the time between modes can easily take up past 40 minutes to an hour. Zoning with a ducted system you would never have that problem.

However, with a VRF system, you could easily go up to 20 ton on one system with over 30 indoor units, each indoor unit being able to heat or cool at the same time. Believe me, there is a use for that, but again, it comes down to price vs a good old 20 ton package unit sitting on the roof using existing ductwork LOL
 
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   / Have you ever thought about changing the central air conditioner? #54  
But you CAN with a heat recovery system. This allows your "VRF" to heat and cool at the same time. Question becomes if it becomes a 2 or 3 pipe system.

Reality is I really love "ductless mini splits" but the reality is I would never install one with more than a couple of heads in my own house. On the service side, they really do become a PITA with more indoor heads.
yes, but mine doesn't have that feature. I do have the capability to install a Y on mine and run a head to say a bedroom, etc, But I just use mine as straight ducted system.

I do like the continuous running for humidity removal, and the low HTZ it uses during operation . My home is way more comfortable with this VRF than it ever was with my old Trane conventional unit .. Either all on @ 60 htz or all off ..

My brother in TX. is all mini split. He has a couple heads on each ODU.
 
   / Have you ever thought about changing the central air conditioner? #55  
yes, but mine doesn't have that feature. I do have the capability to install a Y on mine and run a head to say a bedroom, etc, But I just use mine as straight ducted system.

I do like the continuous running for humidity removal, and the low HTZ it uses during operation . My home is way more comfortable with this VRF than it ever was with my old Trane conventional unit .. Either all on @ 60 htz or all off ..

My brother in TX. is all mini split. He has a couple heads on each ODU.
If I remember correctly it was a Gree? (sp?). Was it a Gree Flexx system?

I'm actually looking at installing a horizontal discharge inverter outdoor up on my 3rd floor. Kind of an experiment. Going to hook it up to a Carrier brand indoor air handler with no strip heat (can't run the electrical from the basement up to the attic for the strip). They tell me I will get 100% heating down to 5F OAT, and crossing fingers it does LOL. Apparently the advantage to this outdoor unit is it can be hooked up to any indoor air handler or coil (as long as it's using a TXV as a metering device). It's either that or replace what's there, heat pump and 80% gas furnace. Heck, even thinking about a Bosch system as we've had a pretty good track record with them and heat with them is very good.

You brother did it the right way IMO if he's running his whole house on ductless by using multiple outdoor units. Too many guys want to run everything off of one outdoor, and personally feel like it's a mistake for multiple reasons.
 
   / Have you ever thought about changing the central air conditioner? #56  
I have a central heat pump system in my exiting house, all heating and cooling for that portion of the house is accomplished with that system. It is pretty efficient as our electric bill is seldom greater than $150, usually closer to $80-100 and we are all electric. That is about to change as we are going to add gas stove and on demand water heater.

In the 820 sqft addition I added I am installing a 1 ton mini split in the main room that opens into the old side of the house and a 9k BTU unit for our new master bedroom. I think the 2 systems will work really well together. I am going with Daiken. 10 year parts warranty.
 
   / Have you ever thought about changing the central air conditioner? #57  
If I remember correctly it was a Gree? (sp?). Was it a Gree Flexx system?

I'm actually looking at installing a horizontal discharge inverter outdoor up on my 3rd floor. Kind of an experiment. Going to hook it up to a Carrier brand indoor air handler with no strip heat (can't run the electrical from the basement up to the attic for the strip). They tell me I will get 100% heating down to 5F OAT, and crossing fingers it does LOL. Apparently the advantage to this outdoor unit is it can be hooked up to any indoor air handler or coil (as long as it's using a TXV as a metering device). It's either that or replace what's there, heat pump and 80% gas furnace. Heck, even thinking about a Bosch system as we've had a pretty good track record with them and heat with them is very good.

You brother did it the right way IMO if he's running his whole house on ductless by using multiple outdoor units. Too many guys want to run everything off of one outdoor, and personally feel like it's a mistake for multiple reasons.
The Gree Flexx is the same as the Mr Cool Universal 2/3 Ton I installed (rebranded).. Good system so far. The heating is suppose to be 100% until -10f, but in reality starts to drop at around 10f. Trying to remember the numbers, but I think it was still putting out 78f-80f at -5f? (edit: at the closest vent)

 
   / Have you ever thought about changing the central air conditioner? #58  
I have a central heat pump system in my exiting house, all heating and cooling for that portion of the house is accomplished with that system. It is pretty efficient as our electric bill is seldom greater than $150, usually closer to $80-100 and we are all electric. That is about to change as we are going to add gas stove and on demand water heater.

In the 820 sqft addition I added I am installing a 1 ton mini split in the main room that opens into the old side of the house and a 9k BTU unit for our new master bedroom. I think the 2 systems will work really well together. I am going with Daiken. 10 year parts warranty.
What is your power cost per kWh? (Helps compare with other parts of the country)

All the best,

Peter
 
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