Have you ever thought about changing the central air conditioner?

   / Have you ever thought about changing the central air conditioner? #61  
I do have 3 phase 380volt at the rural cabin… it powers a very compact Siemens continuous flow hot water heater for 2.5 bathroom

Main heat is wood but the 380volt buzz saw is a monster.
 
   / Have you ever thought about changing the central air conditioner? #62  
Wow...
It is almost 3 times cheaper than California.
I am paying $ 0.35/kwh
That is almost like comparing apples and oranges. SE Tennessee is some of the cheapest, California is the second most expensive after Hawaii. We have lots of old hydroelectric thanks to the TVA.
 
   / Have you ever thought about changing the central air conditioner? #63  
Wow...
It is almost 3 times cheaper than California.
I am paying $ 0.35/kwh
You'll hate it here then.. And this is the increase from the last few years plus new solar going in everywhere. Use to be $38 and $0.072
 

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That is almost like comparing apples and oranges. SE Tennessee is some of the cheapest, California is the second most expensive after Hawaii. We have lots of old hydroelectric thanks to the TVA.
That is the reason so many Californian exodus to other states.

I wish too but I can't unfortunately.😥😥
JKK
 
   / Have you ever thought about changing the central air conditioner? #65  
If I remember correctly it was a Gree? (sp?). Was it a Gree Flexx system?

I'm actually looking at installing a horizontal discharge inverter outdoor up on my 3rd floor. Kind of an experiment. Going to hook it up to a Carrier brand indoor air handler with no strip heat (can't run the electrical from the basement up to the attic for the strip). They tell me I will get 100% heating down to 5F OAT, and crossing fingers it does LOL. Apparently the advantage to this outdoor unit is it can be hooked up to any indoor air handler or coil (as long as it's using a TXV as a metering device). It's either that or replace what's there, heat pump and 80% gas furnace. Heck, even thinking about a Bosch system as we've had a pretty good track record with them and heat with them is very good.

You brother did it the right way IMO if he's running his whole house on ductless by using multiple outdoor units. Too many guys want to run everything off of one outdoor, and personally feel like it's a mistake for multiple reasons.
Yes, Mine is a Gree VRF. with matching AH.
Gree has come out with what they call Gree flex . While I haven't installed any, from what I've read, it works on the same principle as my unit. it doesn't require a communication wire and operates with any 24v T stat and T.stat wire. it will heat to neg 20-22 deg without any supplement heat as does mine.
While it doesn't get that cold here, since I've had mine installed, it has gotten down to 6 deg for a few days and you never would have known it didn't have any supplemental heat.

I haven't done any HVAC work since selling out several yrs ago, but I still like to keep up to date on new equipment and technology. It's amazing how far equipment has come since the old days....

I have a good friend that wanted a new system to replace his old conventional HP with something newer (inverter system) He was once in the HVAC business and gave it up to go into the chicken business. He now owns several chicken houses and grows out chickens LOL. Anyway, I told him I would install a Gree flex which uses the same size line set as his old unit. This was important as like you, his install was for upstairs and no way to replace the line set or add communication wire.
it's an ODU and matching AH.

I ordered it from the supply house, he picked it up and installed it himself
I spoke with him the other day and he says he loves the system.

My brother has worked for several of the manufactures over the years in some capacity.. Samsung, Gree, mitsubishi, Johnson controls, etc,.
Yeah, sometimes, he knows what he's doing. LOL...
 
   / Have you ever thought about changing the central air conditioner? #66  
I bought some new mini-splits below wholesale on closeout. The least I've found for installation is $1,200 for a single head unit and after meeting the guy I wouldn't let him work for me free. I own the tools and have years experience but at 80 my get up and go has got up and left me with vertigo.
I haven't looked into new inverter centrals but not that long ago minis would heat at way colder temps.
 
   / Have you ever thought about changing the central air conditioner? #67  
Yes, Mine is a Gree VRF. with matching AH.
Gree has come out with what they call Gree flex . While I haven't installed any, from what I've read, it works on the same principle as my unit. it doesn't require a communication wire and operates with any 24v T stat and T.stat wire. it will heat to neg 20-22 deg without any supplement heat as does mine.
While it doesn't get that cold here, since I've had mine installed, it has gotten down to 6 deg for a few days and you never would have known it didn't have any supplemental heat.

I haven't done any HVAC work since selling out several yrs ago, but I still like to keep up to date on new equipment and technology. It's amazing how far equipment has come since the old days....

I have a good friend that wanted a new system to replace his old conventional HP with something newer (inverter system) He was once in the HVAC business and gave it up to go into the chicken business. He now owns several chicken houses and grows out chickens LOL. Anyway, I told him I would install a Gree flex which uses the same size line set as his old unit. This was important as like you, his install was for upstairs and no way to replace the line set or add communication wire.
it's an ODU and matching AH.

I ordered it from the supply house, he picked it up and installed it himself
I spoke with him the other day and he says he loves the system.

My brother has worked for several of the manufactures over the years in some capacity.. Samsung, Gree, mitsubishi, Johnson controls, etc,.
Yeah, sometimes, he knows what he's doing. LOL...
Gree is a name new to me...

There was a time if it did not say Carrier I wanted no part of it but now the hospital has a number if different units mostly for the space leaded to Docs...

Looking at ditching my Windows 2000nt Johnson Controls M3 metasys control as the modules on the gas packs are giving me headaches...

I currently have 3 units with thermostats dropped in the return air ducts as a work around to failed modules.

Is Johnson still preferred for energy management?
 
   / Have you ever thought about changing the central air conditioner? #68  
Gree is a name new to me...

There was a time if it did not say Carrier I wanted no part of it but now the hospital has a number if different units mostly for the space leaded to Docs...

Looking at ditching my Windows 2000nt Johnson Controls M3 metasys control as the modules on the gas packs are giving me headaches...

I currently have 3 units with thermostats dropped in the return air ducts as a work around to failed modules.

Is Johnson still preferred for energy management?
GREE Electric Appliances Inc. of Zhuhai, China, is the world's largest manufacturer of air conditioners. Through eight production bases in China, Vietnam, Pakistan and Brazil, GREE can produce up to 27 million residential and 2 million commercial air conditioners per year.
 
   / Have you ever thought about changing the central air conditioner? #69  
GREE Electric Appliances Inc. of Zhuhai, China, is the world's largest manufacturer of air conditioners. Through eight production bases in China, Vietnam, Pakistan and Brazil, GREE can produce up to 27 million residential and 2 million commercial air conditioners per year.
What brands do they sell under?
 
   / Have you ever thought about changing the central air conditioner? #70  

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