Hearing protectors

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fishman

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A recent thread on noisy tractors prompted this post.

To those of us on TBN who enjoy the shooting sports or other activities with intermittent, loud noises, I recommend trying one of the many electronic ear muffs out there. I especially like the ones that "compress" loud sounds instead of "suppressing" them. The difference (don't ask me how it works, somebody else will surely know, though) is that the ones that compress the sound don't shut off all noises when a loud noise (greater than about 83 db) is encountered. Therefore, if your walking through the woods and step on a stick, you can still hear other sounds just fine when that loud noise is suppressed. It's amazing how many noises exceed the minimum. Noises that activate the unit also include clapping, racking the slide on your shotgun, coughing, you get the picture. The volume of normal conversation can actually be increased as well, which is an advantage if you're hunting with a buddy and need to keep talk to a minimum.

I've tried the Peltor (suppress only), the Pro Ears (compress) and the Remington 2000 (compress). Of the three, I would not recommend the Peltor for hunting applications, although the unit is of good quality and works well at the range. The Pro Ears is pricey ($165) and works nicely, but for $100 at Wal-mart, the Remington 2000 is the buy. It has identical specs to the Pro Ears, and I actually find that it is more comfortable and lighter.

I haven't actually tried them while using the tractor, as a combo helmet/face shield/muff that I have works great. I doubt that they would operate satisfactorily, but after the holidays, I'll provide a report.

Does anybody have any experience with other models? Those that fit in the ear canal look like they would be "the berries" but are way pricey.

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While I haven't bought any, I did have the chance to try the Howard Leight "Leightning" muffs. Very impressive. The salesman nearly had me until he said they retailed for $235, but he would discount them to me for $200, wow what a great guy!

I'll have to check out the Remington 2000 after Christmas.

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/ Hearing protectors #3  
I don't find heavy engine noise, nor implement driven noise to be something I want to eliminate.

In fact, IMO, our machines/gear have a language that we should be well advised to listen to. Understanding their language helps keep us safe, our machinery intact, and will go a ways to help us accomplish the various tasks we undertake.

Just my opine.

Doug
 
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i agree on listening to our machines, so that is why i dont listen to music while working or even while plowing in my dump. but, i do wear ear protection on the tractor and i still hear it very well just not quite as loud. i also wear them while using the chainsaw, and once you start you wont go beack.

James "woody" Mills
 
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As some who has permanently damaged their hearing, take it from me, get hearing protection and use it. It doesn't stop you from hearing anything. It just stops the pressure of the sound from smashing your eardrums. And I don't want my hearing to get worse. I've never seen any electonic hearing protection. Does anyone have any links to post? I personally use two sets of David Clarks that I have had for over 18 years and they are still comfortable and not worn out.
Model 10A
Model 19A

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The best hearing protection is the disposable soft foam type ear plugs that insert into the ear canal,the ear muffs do not offer as much protection from noises as the soft type ear plugs.
I use Pura -Fit 6800 made by Moldex-Metric Inc in Culver City California, 200 hundred pairs of plugs per box.Why waste money on expensive hearing muffs when these ear plugs do a better job and are much more comfortable?
 
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I just turn my hearing aids off... -:( To much Rock and Roll in the 70's.

Gary.
 
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I find that after a while, my ear canal starts to hurt with the little foam ones. Also, if your hands are dirty, you have to go inside and wash your hands before you can roll them up between your fingers to stick them in your ears. I do keep a few packs around though, for those occasions where I want to wear a big warm winter hat. The hat won't fit over the ear muff style very well, and in Granny Clampett's words, "you look like a goomer"./w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

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Although the idea of listening to your machinery is a great idea I have to say that you need hearing protection. The reason men have more hearing loss than women is because of their exposure to machinery. The most common cause of hearing loss is loud noise, which is totally preventable. You can use ear protection that will still let you hear the machinery just not as loud which will lower the db and thus save your hearing.

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Yes I have some Hearing loss. I've had it since my youth. Most Of my working life has been spent in ++ 80 decibel environments. I wear ear plugs plus ear muffs. Listening to equipment for strange sounds is actually easier with the ear protection. Not only that the muffs keep the ears warm.
Egon
 
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FYI. I use foam ear plugs. I cut one in two and they then fit comfortably in the ear and don't hang out. They store nicely in a shirt pocket and tool box, and are readily available and easy to remove when not operating the equipment. I wear them when mowing and chain-saw use, as well as when I run my diesel compact for any long periods of time. I can't stand having my ears covered, even in the winter at below zero with howling winds. Although, I have considered getting a snowmobile helmet for plowing snow to keep the wind driven snow and wind off my face this year (if that ever happens!).
 
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You should not have to cut them in two if they are inserted in the ear canal properly.The Pura -fit brand are very soft and do not hurt like some of the other brands.
 
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<font color=blue>ear muffs do not offer as much protection from noises as the soft type ear plugs</font color=blue>

Not true. The listed dB reduction for any type hearing protection is based on NIOSH standards. 29 dB reduction plugs are the same as 29 dB reduction muffs. Like most PPE to be effective it must be properly fitted to the user.

Personally I use muffs because they can be put on or taken off while wearing gloves or when my hands are greasey or dirty. Also, no matter how clean I keep the plugs I seem to be suseptable (sic) to ear infections when I use them.



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Gotta disagree with the hearing police on this one. Having spent nine years of my life on warships with personal responsibility for compliance with OSHA regs, the vast majority of my sailors preferred the muffs over inserts for comfort and ease of use. The few who used inserts suffered from repeated otitis externa in temperate and tropical operating areas. I also discovered while surrounded by screaming turbines that it was quite easy to converse in normal tones when wearing muffs; with the inserts we generally had to yell over the sounds of machinery.

Pete

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Howard Leight MAX (NRR 33) pre-shaped foam earplugs feature:

Smooth outer skin for maximum user comfort
The NRR 33 rating makes MAX the highest rated earplug in the U.S.
The smooth, soil,resistant skin helps prevent foreign material from penetrating
the surface while rolling prior to insertion
Attenuation tested in accordance with ANSI S3.19-1974
Noise reduction rating NRR 33 dB, SNR 34 dB
Orange color, packed in poly bags
200 uncorded pair per box
100 corded pair per box
50 bags of 5 pair each per box or bulk packed for howard Leight Dispenser

Pittbully,I would say it is true unless you can find ear muffs that offer NRR 33 DB( I have not yet seen any,not to say there is not). A NRR 33 DB is superior over a 29 DB.
 
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repeated otitis externa in temperate and tropical operating areas

30 plus years and 500 + workers that has never been a problem here.
 
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<font color=blue>I just turn my hearing aids off</font color=blue>

Gary, I used to occasionally do that, too, but don't know whether the fact that we don't "hear" the loud noise anymore actually prevents further damage to our ears or not. Now with the new hearing aids, I can't just turn them off with my finger (takes a tiny screwdriver to adjust the volume)./w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif And I've never used the ear muff type protectors because they're usually so darned hot!

So I guess I've always just done the worst thing possible; nothing. Maybe that's a habit I need to try to change.

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You are right, I don't have to cut them in two. But, I cut them in two as they are twice as long as they need to be. They are the right diameter, just too long.
 
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<font color=blue>Pittbully,I would say it is true unless you can find ear muffs that offer NRR 33 DB</font color=blue>

Actually, it is true even if you can't find muffs with 33 dB reduction, if you could, the protection would be equal to the plugs. You did not say that you used the highest rated plug and therefore had more protection, you said:

<font color=blue>ear muffs do not offer as much protection from noises as the soft type ear plugs</font color=blue>

Didn't I talk to your brother "thoughtpolice" over on another thread?



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You did not say that you used the highest rated plug and therefore had more protection.

You think I am going to compare the lowest rated ear plug to the highest rated ear muff?
The 33 db is what I was meaning.......Geez
 

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