Heart Healthy Eating

[Western]

I like what Former Governor Mike Huckabee said about his weight loss

" If it comes through your car window, or wasn't available 100+ years ago, don't eat it"

A personal excerpt since I trust you guy's
I was raised a vegetarian, but as an adult I have flunked miserably:ashamed:
It was a religious (hate to use that word here in the forum) doctrine that a clean body is a-tune to a clean mind, of which I have neither.:laughing:

Now as I am on the threshold of 50, I have began to revisit the knowledge I was taught and think it may be time, since I have been fortunate to live this long, to get my act together.

Don, I think it is a testament to you to bring attention to this the way you have, may be an opportunity for guy's like me to reflect on things, and brother I have a long way to go

 

[two_bit_score]

I like what Former Governor Mike Huckabee said about his weight loss

" If it comes through your car window, or wasn't available 100+ years ago, don't eat it"

A personal excerpt since I trust you guy's
I was raised a vegetarian, but as an adult I have flunked miserably:ashamed:
It was a religious (hate to use that word here in the forum) doctrine that a clean body is a-tune to a clean mind, of which I have neither.:laughing:

Now as I am on the threshold of 50, I have began to revisit the knowledge I was taught and think it may be time, since I have been fortunate to live this long, to get my act together.

Don, I think it is a testament to you to bring attention to this the way you have, may be an opportunity for guy's like me to reflect on things, and brother I have a long way to go

Mas cervesa, poquito comidia.

More beer, less food. Really does work.

"there are more old drunks than there are old doctors, so I guess i'll have another round".

I know some will take me wrong on this but I had two old great uncles who lived into their 90's and were never sick and they drank a lot of Lone Star.

.

 

[txdon]

Do you guys keep a record of your normal resting heart rate and how long it takes for it to return to normal after you stop your vigorous exercise?
Has your resting pulse rate reduced much since the days before you started an exercise program?
Do you ever take your blood pressure right after exercise and find it to be lower than normal resting rate?
I find the pulse monitor on my treadmill to be very eratic. As my hands become more sweaty it becomes more stable but still not satisfactory.
I purchased a wireless transmitter that is a belt around the chest and a receiver plugged in the treadmill. It is not much better than the hand grips on the treadmill.
Much more accurrate to have the wife do it with her finger on my wrist and use a wristwatch or step off the mill and do it myself.
My treadmill programs age, gender, weight, height and other factors to relate to the calorie counter over time versus the incline and speed of the belt but there is not much difference based on the input data differences and calories burned. People with a short stride have to burn more calories at a given mph of the belt than a tall person, in my opinion.
I like all the electronic gizmos on the exercise machines but feel they are more psychological in selling new equipment than they are accurrate.
I do rely on an electronic BP cuff versus the hand pump and scope as I think it is more accurrate.(not acurrate if you have a murmer or miss though) You know how different nurses get different results based on their techniques and how much of a hurry they are in.
The real proof is in the records over time, the scales, how you feel, and results of the blood tests averaged over time. Even the blood test results can be a lot different depending on what you ate and the liquids you had a few days before a fast and draw.

pacerron, I do not keep track of my resting heart rate however I just took it and it was 54, this morning 50, earlier this week, before I got out of bed, 43. My systolic BP is in the 96-108 range.

My Garmin watch measures recovery heart rate at two minutes after I stop running. It has dropped about 10 beats in 7 weeks and is now in the low 90s. That is after a HR of 150 at the end of my 3 mile run. I don't time how long it takes to get in the normal 50-60 range. I do not take my BP after exercising.
I have noticed in the past 7 weeks that running the same pace my HR is down about 10.


My Garmin watch with the chest strap seems very accurate. During cardiac rehab my Sportsline watch (no chest strap, just touch the side of the watch) was almost exactly what the monitors were showing. The hand grips on equipment I've tried are always off.

I found out they have another gizmo for my watch. A body composition scale.

The three cholesterol blood test I have had since reducing my statins have all been within 3 points of each other. LDL-70
Since I eat no cholesterol it is a measure of only what my liver produces.

Western, being raised a vegetarian it will be a cake walk for you to go plant-based fat free. You probably just need a little heart attack to get you started.

 

[beppington]

If nothing else, Don, thank you for detailing what happened to you & the changes you've made. Certainly not the same as if it happened directly to those of us who haven't had heart problems (yet?), but still a well-documented wake-up call.

Oh & BTW ...

You probably just need a little heart attack to get you started.

... is funny! :laughing:

 

[dmccarty]

Do you guys keep a record of your normal resting heart rate and how long it takes for it to return to normal after you stop your vigorous exercise?
Has your resting pulse rate reduced much since the days before you started an exercise program?
Do you ever take your blood pressure right after exercise and find it to be lower than normal resting rate?
I find the pulse monitor on my treadmill to be very eratic. As my hands become more sweaty it becomes more stable but still not satisfactory.
I purchased a wireless transmitter that is a belt around the chest and a receiver plugged in the treadmill. It is not much better than the hand grips on the treadmill.
Much more accurrate to have the wife do it with her finger on my wrist and use a wristwatch or step off the mill and do it myself.
My treadmill programs age, gender, weight, height and other factors to relate to the calorie counter over time versus the incline and speed of the belt but there is not much difference based on the input data differences and calories burned. People with a short stride have to burn more calories at a given mph of the belt than a tall person, in my opinion.
I like all the electronic gizmos on the exercise machines but feel they are more psychological in selling new equipment than they are accurrate.
I do rely on an electronic BP cuff versus the hand pump and scope as I think it is more accurrate.(not acurrate if you have a murmer or miss though) You know how different nurses get different results based on their techniques and how much of a hurry they are in.
The real proof is in the records over time, the scales, how you feel, and results of the blood tests averaged over time. Even the blood test results can be a lot different depending on what you ate and the liquids you had a few days before a fast and draw.

The accuracy of the heart rate monitor(HRM) on our bike seems good. I know my normal HR and the bike matches. The bikes HR sensors worked fine when I used them. I keep a towel with me when exercising to keep my hands dry so I can use the Kindle. This may be why I do not see a problem with the bike's HR sensors.

The chest HR transmitter can be a PITA. Last night I had problems with mine which is the second time this has happened. On mine, the strap has to be wet to work. For some reason last night it took 30 minutes of fiddling to get the strap to work. It does seem that the strap has to be put on exactly correctly with the sensor portion up, not down, and the strap put on to match the sensor. None of this is really obvious. Or I have some other issue.

My resting HR has not changed but I do not think I think it is too early for me. Maybe after months of this type of work out the resting HR will go down.

My HR after a workout has not gone lower then my resting HR. But I take off the HR strap after I cool down somewhat so I would not know my HR after the workout.

The computer I the Schwinn could be much better. It tracks total workout numbers but not each workout so I have been writing down the stats after each session. According to the bike's computer I have burned enough calories to loose three pounds. The scale says I have lost three pounds so I think the computer is measuring burned calories correctly.

I check my blood pressure weekly. I do not have BP problems but there is a machine at work that I use. I do not have a way to check BP at home. So far I have not seen a BP change. I have measure my BP for years and it really has not changed much nor has the resting HR even when I was working out more.

Later,
Dan

 

[dmccarty]

Mas cervesa, poquito comidia.

More beer, less food. Really does work.

"there are more old drunks than there are old doctors, so I guess i'll have another round".

I know some will take me wrong on this but I had two old great uncles who lived into their 90's and were never sick and they drank a lot of Lone Star.

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It is funny that you brought this up. This morning I was thinking about beer. :licking::laughing:

I was thinking how hard it is to burn 500 calories. On the other hand look how easy it is to consume 500 calories. All you have to do to eat 500 calories is to sit on the couch and drink a couple of beers.

This made me think of some people I know who were heavy drinkers but thin. They also ate quite a bit as well with no exercise. Go figure.

Later,
Dan

 

[Western]

Western, being raised a vegetarian it will be a cake walk for you to go plant-based fat free. You probably just need a little heart attack to get you started.

A smart guy would learn from others too:laughing: I don't want to go through a heart attack. I cant afford it, don't like pain and don't have time or $$ to brick my driveway afterwards

If nothing else, Don, thank you for detailing what happened to you & the changes you've made. Certainly not the same as if it happened directly to those of us who haven't had heart problems (yet?), but still a well-documented wake-up call.

Oh & BTW ...... is funny! :laughing:

Bepp, well said, better than I did in my post above, but the same thing is what I was trying to convey.:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Mas cervesa, poquito comidia.

More beer, less food. Really does work.

"there are more old drunks than there are old doctors, so I guess i'll have another round".

I know some will take me wrong on this but I had two old great uncles who lived into their 90's and were never sick and they drank a lot of Lone Star.

.

Lone Star?? They still make that? sure makes some da&* good biscuit's too. Used to get them at the state fare, (biscuits made with Lone Star). too:thumbsup:

 

[pacerron]

My HR after a workout has not gone lower then my resting HR. But I take off the HR strap after I cool down somewhat so I would not know my HR after the workout. Later,
Dan

My question was whether your blood pressure was lower than normal a minute or two after vigorous exercise... not your heart rate.
Your heart rate should be higher after vigorous exercise but return to normal rather quickly.
Your blood pressure normally should be a little lower than normal after the workout.
Everything is opened up a little so there is less resistance to flow.
But.. too low can make you dizzy. Too low too long can give you a fealing of chronic fatigue, headaches, and a loss of ability to reason well. Gotta keep that oxygen supply going to your cells.

 

[txdon]

Lone Star?? They still make that? sure makes some da&* good biscuit's too. Used to get them at the state fare, (biscuits made with Lone Star). too:thumbsup:

Lone Star beer is still sold in Texas.

But you know the challenge on this thread. If when you mentioned a favorite food you are obligated to get us the heart healthy modified recipe.

The ingredient, Lone Star beer, is acceptable, however you might want to substitute fax seed meal for the eggs, applesauce for the oil, whole wheat pastry flour for the white flour, low fat oat or soy milk for the animal milk...etc... and we want it to be fluffy and taste good. Anyone here or at home may help you.:thumbsup:

 

[beppington]

Every morning I drink a "shake" consisting of a 1/2 banana, a spoonful of flax seed (pre-ground "Gold Dash O'flax") & enough plain soy milk lite to bring it up to the 10-oz level.