Heating Oil Rip

[Double Orange]

Northern CA they also have a voluntarys tip hot line to report anyone suspected of burning on no burn days...

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Rat out your neighbor....
That's what the Brown Shirts Did in Germany Circa 1939.

Where is this Nation Going ?

 

[MikePA]

Rat out your neighbor....
That's what the Brown Shirts Did in Germany Circa 1939.

No, that's not what the Brown Shirts did.

 

[Ductape]

Aaaawwwwww........ looks like the poor, poor oil dealers don't like people using alternative heat sources! I feel really bad for them.


Study: Pellet stoves pollute more than oil furnaces

 

[SPYDERLK]

The Ban includes all wood burning, including pellets and the Bay Area Air Quality Management District decides which days the No Burn Rules apply.

It was argued by many that EPA Catalyst Equipped Stoves and Pellet Stoves should be exempt due the very low particulate output.

The District decided it would be too difficult for enforcement officers to differentiate whether a stove was certified or not... thus the outright ban certain times of the year.

Presumption of guilt is not legal unless the govt finds it convenient.
larry

 

[groundcover]

Not sure that the poor oil dealers are sitting all that pretty either, A friend of mine just got laid off from his oil truck delivery job along with a burner tec. Winter looks to be long and cold, glad I have my fire wood ready ! Next we will see the bumber sticker ' They can have my woodstove when they pry it from my frozen dead fingers !'

 

[mjarrels]

I bet electric blanket sales will be hot this winter. I heat with a heat pump and will cut the temp back to about 65 instead of the usual 68. My other house has oil heat and can go all year on 275 gal tank IF the temp is reduced. I was down at that house last Nov on a cold day and everyone was setting around in nothing but shorts... I looked at the temp setting and it was at 80 degrees... a tank of oil doesn't last long at that setting... by Feb, it was either pay rent or buy oil... didn't get any rent that month but at least the pipes didn't freeze.

mark

 

[gemini5362]

I actually try to do the best of both worlds. I have a heat pump for my main heating (it actually makes me insurance company a lot happier also) and I have a woodstove to help with the heating load. The main return for my woodstove is a 16 inch duct. The vent for that duct is directly overhead of my woodstove. When I have the wood stove burning if the heat pump kicks on it pulls the heat from the wood stove to mix with the heat from the heat pump. Seems to help with that quite a bit.

The best system I have personally seen in my opinion is a fireplace that has an oil burner in it. In the south where I live oil heaters are not very common but when I lived in virginia my neighbor had a unit that installed like a zero clearance fireplace. Looked exactly like a fire place from the outside. It had glass doors like a fireplace but it also had metal doors that closed and sealed it up. These doors could be opened and folded back out of the way if you wanted to use the fireplace. The fire grates were in a box that was surrounded by another box and had ductwork in the outer box. When my friend wanted a wood fire he threw in regular split wood ( no kindling) shut the metal doors turned on the oil burner. After a few minutes turned off the burner opened the metal doors and had a nice fire going. When he got ready to go to bed he filled the stove with wood shut the doors when the fire burned low the oil burner kicked on and worked like a regular oil furnace. Those units are kind of pricy but to me they are the best system I have seen if you like to burn wood.



For anyone that is just getting started burning wood I might offer a tip. You might want to see if you have a saw mill anywhere near you. The saw mills around here sell what they call slab wood. When the saw mill put the wood on the saw they make a cut to even the wood out this produces a piece that starts very thin on one end and gets thicker at the other end. The saw mills around where I live pile these pieces together and when the pile gets big enough they take steel strapping and bundle them. They call this slab wood and the bundles locally sell for 12 to 20 dollars a bundle. Most bundles have somewhere around 1.5 to 2 ricks of wood in them. You cut the straps then cut the wood to whatever size you use in your stove or fireplace. One of the advantages is that you dont have to worry about splitting them. You might want to check now. When the season turns to fall those bundles go fast.

 

[SPYDERLK]

Snip.....The best system I have personally seen in my opinion is a fireplace that has an oil burner in it. In the south where I live oil heaters are not very common but when I lived in virginia my neighbor had a unit that installed like a zero clearance fireplace. Looked exactly like a fire place from the outside. It had glass doors like a fireplace but it also had metal doors that closed and sealed it up. These doors could be opened and folded back out of the way if you wanted to use the fireplace. The fire grates were in a box that was surrounded by another box and had ductwork in the outer box. When my friend wanted a wood fire he threw in regular split wood ( no kindling) shut the metal doors turned on the oil burner. After a few minutes turned off the burner opened the metal doors and had a nice fire going. When he got ready to go to bed he filled the stove with wood shut the doors when the fire burned low the oil burner kicked on and worked like a regular oil furnace. Those units are kind of pricy but to me they are the best system I have seen if you like to burn wood.

I have an oil/wood central furnace that works that way. Been so long since its run on oil the oil side wont light. Needs filter work I guess. I probably wont get a round tuit. Oil is too expensive to use in place of do it yourself wood. Oil is for the tractor.
larry

 

[LBrown59]

My other house has oil heat and can go all year on 275 gal tank IF the temp is reduced.

mark

Do you use this in your tractor too?

 

[Slade]

Almost makes me feel bad that I waste all the trees I cut by throwing them on the burn pile, just not cold enough here in the winter to worry about heating. None of my neighbors want them even if I split them -- too many trees around here.

Fortunately the guy that built my house put in three geothermal A/C units (Water Furnaces) so the cooling bills are reasonable.

And no LBrown59, no heating oil in my tractor.