Help me buy a compact tractor - information overload...

[GirlWhoWantsTractor]

JD claims their 1025r is built here except for yanmar engine

*Assembled* here from parts made in China, Korea, Japan, Germany, India, or Mexico, depending on the model.

 

[bfloyd4445]

*Assembled* here from parts made in China, Korea, Japan, Germany, India, or Mexico, depending on the model.

I talked to them only about one model the 1025r. There answer was that the parts were mostly made here and assembled in Georgia with the Japanese yanmar engine. I called NH and MF also, not interested in foreign companies products. I buy from North American companies. For me I'm deciding between a jd 1025r FILB or a MF1720FILB. The MF is cheaper but the JD has the features and reputation i like. Kubotas are good tractors but i won't buy one because they are a japanese company.

 

[GirlWhoWantsTractor]

I talked to them only about one model the 1025r. There answer was that the parts were mostly made here and assembled in Georgia with the Japanese yanmar engine. I called NH and MF also, not interested in foreign companies products. I buy from North American companies. For me I'm deciding between a jd 1025r FILB or a MF1720FILB. The MF is cheaper but the JD has the features and reputation i like. Kubotas are good tractors but i won't buy one because they are a japanese company.

L Mitron (Korean company) makes LS, New Holland, and Case IH.

TYM (Korean company) makes Mahindra, RK, Branson, and TYM.

Kubota (Japanese company) makes Kubota.

Dae Dong (Korean company) makes Kioti.

Yanmar (Japanese company) makes Yanmar.

John Deere (U.S. company) assembles JD's from parts sourced worldwide for tractors under 100HP.

AGCO (U.S.-owned company but based in Canada) makes Massey Ferguson with parts sourced from various countries.

There is no tractor under 100HP that is wholly manufactured in the U.S.

Many of the above tractors are partly or wholly assembled in the U.S. but using parts sourced from various countries.

Seems like your choices are buy a tractor made by a foreign company but manufactured and assembled here. Or buy a tractor made by a U.S. company using foreign parts. Or buy an over-100HP tractor.

 

[searcyfarms]

I have green/red/blue/yellow stuff................no orange here yet lol...........they are tools not toys, do u own any wrenches that are not American made? ever buy anything from harbor freight? this is a can of worms for sure lol - good luck finding what will satisfy your justification because it will be hard to know where everything came from, what if a foreign person bolted your machine together? we could take this a long way and for what ?

 

[jeff9366]

I talked to them only about one model the 1025r. There answer was that the parts were mostly made here and assembled in Georgia with the Japanese yanmar engine. I called NH and MF also, not interested in foreign companies products. I buy from North American companies. For me I'm deciding between a jd 1025r FILB or a MF1720FILB. The MF is cheaper but the JD has the features and reputation i like.

Kubotas are good tractors but i won't buy one because they are a japanese company.

I believe you are correct.
Here is a list of Deere assembly plants and tractor production by model, worldwide.
TractorData.com - John Deere tractors sorted by factory


Keep in mind Deere, Kubota and other tractor producers are publicly owned. Deere shares, Kubota shares, etc are owned and voted in Japan, USA, Germany, Brazil, Australia, Finland, Korea etc., etc. I would not attribute too much "national" character to Deere, Kubota nor any other widely held public company.

Kubota's symbol on the NYSE is KUBTY.

Kubota likely employs more people than Deere in Georgia, but Deere certainly employs more people than Kubota within the USA. Kubota is building big plants in Kansas and Texas.

You should spend your hard earned dollars as you wish. Commendable research.


I hurriedly purchased a 2012 Ford Fusion because it looked Detroit. After the car was home I more carefully read the window sticker: content and assembly 100% Hermosillo, Mexico. I kicked myself.

Toyota Camry, manufactured in Georgetown, Kentucky, most years has the highest USA content of any passenger vehicle.

Research is important.

 

[GirlWhoWantsTractor]

I believe you are correct.
Here is a list of Deere assembly plants and tractor production by model, worldwide.
TractorData.com - John Deere tractors sorted by factory

Like a lot of JD's, it *used* to be made here. Currently the 1025r factory is listed as "unknown" on Tractor Data. Tractor dealer says there are currently no under-100HP tractors that are manufactured (not just assembled) in the U.S. Fully or partially assembled here from globally sourced components.

What difference does it make as long as it's a good tractor? Everything is global nowadays.

 

[ViperDriver]

I am less concerned about where things are made (assembled usually) than if it's well made, engineered, and well supported. For work, I am very global in my experiences / suppliers, etc. Looks like rain rain rain and more rain here - maybe Saturday @ the Kioti dealer. (since they don't have "build your own" on their site - still cranky about that)

 

[rngrrymd]

JD claims their 1025r is built here except for yanmar engine

John Deere - Augusta Produces One Millionth Tractor

 

[GirlWhoWantsTractor]

John Deere - Augusta Produces One Millionth Tractor

That article is talking about a 5100M. It appears most of the 5000 series are "built" in Georgia (the rest are made in India), as are a couple 2000 series (the rest are from Japan), and the 1023r. (Using Japanese engines, German gear boxes, Canadian FELs, as well as components from China and half a dozen other countries.) It appears the 1025r also used to made here, maybe up to around 2012 or so. Tractor Data lists its current factory location as "unknown." Most of the 4000 series are made in Mexico.

Like other tractor makers, John Deere is a truly international company. John Deere has 6 facilities in Germany alone. Their factory in Mannheim, Germany, produces 30,000 6-series tractors per year, 28% of which are exported back to North America. It also builds the gear boxes that are then shipped to John Deere factories around the world.

JD has built their tractors in or sourced components from so many different countries over the years, and frequently switches, that it's complicated to figure out where a particular model is built or assembled, and where its components were manufactured.

Some of the larger JD specialized farming equipment are still manufactured in the U.S. and use more American components.

I personally have no problem with any of this, like ViperDriver said, as long as it's a good tractor. Sure it would be nice to get back some of our manufacturing base but it appears that train has left the station and isn't coming back.

 

[rngrrymd]

That article is talking about a 5100M. It appears most of the 5000 series are "built" in Georgia (the rest are made in India), as are a couple 2000 series (the rest are from Japan), and the 1023r. (Using Japanese engines, German gear boxes, Canadian FELs, as well as components from China and half a dozen other countries.) It appears the 1025r also used to made here, maybe up to around 2012 or so. Tractor Data lists its current factory location as "unknown." Most of the 4000 series are made in Mexico.

Like other tractor makers, John Deere is a truly international company. John Deere has 6 facilities in Germany alone. Their factory in Mannheim, Germany, produces 30,000 6-series tractors per year, 28% of which are exported back to North America. It also builds the gear boxes that are then shipped to John Deere factories around the world.

JD has built their tractors in or sourced components from so many different countries over the years, and frequently switches, that it's complicated to figure out where a particular model is built or assembled, and where its components were manufactured.

Some of the larger JD specialized farming equipment are still manufactured in the U.S. and use more American components.

I personally have no problem with any of this, like ViperDriver said, as long as it's a good tractor. Sure it would be nice to get back some of our manufacturing base but it appears that train has left the station and isn't coming back.

Obviously you skimmed the article and missed this statement:

John Deere - Augusta builds the 1 Family, 2 Family, 3 Family, and 4 Family Compact Utility Tractors that are popular with homeowners, small farmers, landscape contractors and commercial users.

John Deere designs and builds all the compact tractors in Georgia. They are no longer just Yanmar clones. We know they use Yanmar engines still (the cost to build a Tier IV engine from scratch would be astronomical and not cost effective so they are stuck using Yanmar which is a great engine) and I'm sure you are right about different components being made in different countries and shipped in to Georgia but they are not "made in Japan". All the re-designs = 1025r, new 2 series, new 3 series etc are now Deere designed.

Part of the higher cost of Deere and Kubota are because they both have US facilities building their tractors regardless of where they are sourcing the components which means their labor costs are higher.