Help me identify this backhoe attachment

[bbtank45]

Yeah, im up in the air on how i feel about the seat moving with the boom....im not going to be using this every day. Either way, ill make subtle sacrifices to make it work for me.

Primary use will be for a couple hundred feet of drainage line. Considering the factory pump was rated at a MAX of 10 gpm, and most of the Long brand tractors these were on had significantly less GPM pumps on them, im hoping to be fine using the tractor pump. If not, i still have the PTO pump. Below are the general specs on the hoe, as well as the PTO pump specs.

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[ovrszd]

Oh yeah, you should be fine since the PTO pump was only 10 gpm. I was afraid it was something like 20 gpm.

We definitely share a hobby and could totally derail this thread!!!!

 

[majorwager]

Can't speak to the evolution of Long backhoes but I include 2 photos of my 1199B. Purchased new from Long in 1995. Controls upgraded on the "B" haven't used it since building a 50 x 120 horse barn in 1996. Complete perimeter concrete foundation. It worked quite well in rocky soil. Was told by Long rep at purchase, unit was built by koyker? Also bought a tractor loader from long and it was delivered w/ the koyker name imprinted on the arms. Backhoe may have been built by koyker to Long specs, so may differ from koyker branded hoes from same era.?

Would NOT sell mine for $1200, but mine always housed indoors., have 36 " grading bucket as well, also worked nicely. I made a channel iron frame mount for mine, simple to do. I would caution 3 point mount. Used it linkage mounted several times on a heavy IH 50hp utility tractor. Believe if used aggressively, it would rip linkage completely off the rear end. The hoe frame is the reservoir. Exercise care not to contaminate your tractor hyd fluid w/ any residual debris from hoe tank. Difficult to ever drain ALL residual oil.

 

[bbtank45]

Can't speak to the evolution of Long backhoes but I include 2 photos of my 1199B. Purchased new from Long in 1995. Controls upgraded on the "B" haven't used it since building a 50 x 120 horse barn in 1996. Complete perimeter concrete foundation. It worked quite well in rocky soil. Was told by Long rep at purchase, unit was built by koyker? Also bought a tractor loader from long and it was delivered w/ the koyker name imprinted on the arms. Backhoe may have been built by koyker to Long specs, so may differ from koyker branded hoes from same era.?

Would NOT sell mine for $1200, but mine always housed indoors., have 36 " grading bucket as well, also worked nicely. I made a channel iron frame mount for mine, simple to do. I would caution 3 point mount. Used it linkage mounted several times on a heavy IH 50hp utility tractor. Believe if used aggressively, it would rip linkage completely off the rear end. The hoe frame is the reservoir. Exercise care not to contaminate your tractor hyd fluid w/ any residual debris from hoe tank. Difficult to ever drain ALL residual oil.

Excellent advice and i really appreciate the comment and pictures. Makes me feel a little better about making the decision to purchase. The LONG tag on mine identifies it as a T200 model, not sure what the major differences are with the 1199's. I received a 12" bucket and an 18" bucket with mine.I will be hooking it up to the tractor (4025 Mahindra, 4900lbs) for the first time this evening. I am leaning towards fabricating a simple frame mount for attaching to the tractor once i get it hooked up....honestly the bushings and pins have little to no wear on them, everything is very tight.

I eliminated the frame tank from the hydraulic system. Pressure side comes directly from the tractor remotes into the Walvoil control valve. Return is plumbed through a CAT 30mic filter I added before going back to the tractor.

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[CincyFlyer]

One little note on the seat moving with the boom: have you ever used a mini excavator?:thumbsup: The seat, and most everything else, moves with the boom! It will be easier to line things up by eye, at the least.

 

[bbtank45]

One little note on the seat moving with the boom: have you ever used a mini excavator? The seat, and most everything else, moves with the boom! It will be easier to line things up by eye, at the least.

Very solid point lol yes I have operated a mini ex.....very little.

 

[ovrszd]

One little note on the seat moving with the boom: have you ever used a mini excavator?:thumbsup: The seat, and most everything else, moves with the boom! It will be easier to line things up by eye, at the least.

I totally agree on a mini ex. This isn't going to be the same. But I believe the OP will adjust to it just fine. Actually won't know the difference if he's not operated a small hoe that doesn't do that.

Difference is a mini ex seat is forward or near center of pivot so you move "with" the boom. On this hoe the seat is behind pivot. A "swing" effect will be felt. No biggie. Just unusual design. Not sure why it was built that way.

 

[majorwager]

Ovrszd,,
Spent some Long days on my Long backhoe, definitively report that the seat swing is of absolutely NO consequence. In fact, if loading a truck or dump trailer, the sightline is an advantage. Also on the light excavators, I've used, the option existed to swing the entire cab or just the boom. Whether your neck rotates or whole body, still need to know where the bucket is emptied. And it is never unusual if it works.

 

[ovrszd]

Yep, as an operator we need to be flexible and adapt. Look at the adaptation required to run the various types of controls. My least favorite is foot swing.

 

[bbtank45]

Whipped up a heavy duty top link this weekend. 2" x 4"x .25" box tubing with .25" pin bushings. Also repositioned the stabilizers so the lower 3pt arms are parallel with the ground, transfering backhoe forces straight through the chassis of the tractor. Tonight/this week I will be working on the bracing to "lock-out" the 3pt in this position. On most setups setups, it appears the "locking out" is done by creating a connection from the top link to the backhoe, commonly with angle iron or 1/2" flat stock.

Am I safe to connect from the top link to the draw bar?. Are my forces up and down or laterally (side to side)?

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