Help me identify this noise.

[clemsonfor]

Yes.

That thread I linked has photos. After the big nut is removed and the bull gear slipped off the axle, the inner axle bearing came out of the housing easily, as the whole housing and everything slipped off.

I have no idea if the outer bearing can be removed from the axle shaft without tearing down the whole assembly. I think I remember reading that this is necessary.

I was hoping that a slide hammer might pull the outer....but really didn't have much confidence in this actually working though.

 

[California]

I Just looked in the YM240 shop manual and flat rate manual. 1.5 hours to remove the axle housing then a few tenths for either inner or outer axle bearings. (For someone who does this all the time.)

The inner bearing is a press fit onto the axle shaft, outer bearing is press fit onto the axle shaft then the whole axle/bearings assembly is press fit into the housing.

 

[clemsonfor]

I Just looked in the YM240 shop manual and flat rate manual. 1.5 hours to remove the axle housing then a few tenths for either inner or outer axle bearings. (For someone who does this all the time.)

The inner bearing is a press fit onto the axle shaft, outer bearing is press fit onto the axle shaft then the whole axle/bearings assembly is press fit into the housing.

Well then that's much better than I thought...from what I remembered reading I was thinking this was an all day job...bit what I saw must be a totally different design.

So are we thinking that whole shaft pulls to the outside once I get that Bull gear off from the inside?

I can't see how that job would be done in 1.5 hours. That's why I couldn't be a mechanic, I'd spend at least half that time cleaning up surfaces to reseal something!

 

[California]

So are we thinking that whole shaft pulls to the outside once I get that Bull gear off from the inside?

Yes, everything shown in that final photo of the old housing. It slides right off. Well after you break the bond of the paper gasket, which shouldn't have been glued in place.

 

[clemsonfor]

Yes, everything shown in that final photo of the old housing. It slides right off. Well after you break the bond of the paper gasket, which shouldn't have been glued in place.

This is a VN machine. They use paper gaskets and some of the strongest most difficult to remove glue/sealant that I have ever come across. Take a wire wheel to get it off, razor blade does not easily remove it. Good news is that it's so solidly adheared that of you don't get it all, (I use RTV) that the RTV just seals to it and then the other half of the surface, never had leaks. I try to get 100% of it off but sometimes I have not.

 

[clemsonfor]

Spoke with Hoye, I assume Aaron by there email message system. I explained what's going on and asked how the shaft pulls out if it does or does the assembly need to be removed and it pressed out. He said the shaft "should" pull out on e the bull gear is removed. Inner bearing like was said comes off after bullgear on inside. Now I said "should" cause as we know this is a 45 year old tractor that I don't know but the last 12 years or so history on. So it should come out. Worse case I guess is I can't get enough leverage to pull it out and have to remove it to tap it out with a dead low and block. Said bearing friction should be all that you feel resistance wise bit again 45 year old tractor....

I think I'm starting the job tonight

 

[ponytug]

Good luck!

 

[California]

The Labor Flat Rate Manual says 1.5 hours to remove/install the whole assembly then a few tenths each added to replace the inner/outer bearing. So apparently whoever wrote the manual didn't expect the axle to slide out as you describe. We'll see ....

 

[clemsonfor]

The Labor Flat Rate Manual says 1.5 hours to remove/install the whole assembly then a few tenths each added to replace the inner/outer bearing. So apparently whoever wrote the manual didn't expect the axle to slide out as you describe. We'll see ....

Well I'm probably an hour into it. Axle not out. I'm beating on it pretty good and it sounds pretty solid. I'm thinking I will have to take the assembly off to press it. Like I said I beat on it pretty good on the hub with a 5 pound dead blow.

 

[clemsonfor]

You know I'm sitting here thinking after dinner. I quit for the night. I didn't pull the bolts out of the seal retainer. The plate that holds the seal in. I'm sitting here thinking that would capture the bearing as the shaft goes through the retainer...the bearing can't obviously come out the same hole!! I'll take those bolts out and see if it slides out.