Help Please...Frozen Bunny Waterer

[TWINKLE_TOES]

Because you live in the real world and not the laboratory. If you were to use two plastic buckets to minimize conduction and only paritally full to maximize the surface area and minimize the volume and also boil the hot sample to remove any dissolved gases and warm the cold water to about 30 deg C then you could get the boiling water to freeze faster.

Concluding that hot water freezes faster than cold water is a bit like the deaf frog experiment.

 

[cpicton1]

I_am_the_Walrus

I myself cannot explain either one of these phenomenon. I was just going by what I read. I do know that seeing is believing. You have seen the water freezing thing but I have never tried it. I know that hot or cold, they will both freeze. If I were to put out one of each to see which one freezes first they would probably both be frozen solid by the time I rememberd to check on them. /w3tcompact/icons/grin.gif
I have never tested the antifreeze either. I just mix everything 50/50.

nitronut1

You may have to change the rabbits water often when it's cold or maybe use an electric watering bowl. If you try the electric bowl you will need to install it in a way that the cord is not in reach of the rabbits sharp little teeth. They will chew on them. "Ouch" /w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gif

 

[nitronut1]

Wow guys! I am floored by all your responses and the lessons I've just learned in hot and cold water freezing properties. THANK YOU!

I've been swapping the bottles for now. Tried to find a heated dish at the pet store, but they don't stock them. Will have to try a bigger place like PetsMart or a similar store. If I do find one, I'll have to bolt it into the cage as the bunny messes with anything put in her "home".

Attached is a photo of the little critter, my daughter and mom.

 

[I_am_the_Walrus]

Thank you Twinkle toes......There for a while I thought doing the chores was going to be complicated....../w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif.Yes,I have a barn not a laboratory.../w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

 

[heehaw]

wayyy back in 1973, i lost a bet about hot water freezin faster than cold water; a co-worker remembered it the same way i did, and we spent a lot of time in the library trying to come up with something about that subject: but found nothing; so we had to buy lunch for 2 other co-workers; but i still remember being told that in high school science class; the co-worker that remembered it the same as i did, is now the head emergency room doctor at WVU hospital: or was a couple years ago: if i can locate his email address, i am going to send all of these links to him, just to see if i can stir him up again...
heehaw

 

[WVBill]

They have the heated dishes at Tractor Supply. Look in the section with dog dishes. The cord is protected by a metal "jacket" (like it's run through a spring) so that should help keep bunny's teeth off of it.

I keep one set up on top of the bird bath during the winter. Birds need water during the winter just like they need it during the summer.

 

[PitbullMidwest]

<font color=blue>Guess that explains why Mom & Dad's hot water pipes would occasionaly freeze but the cold never would. </font color=blue>

Reminds me of a story I was once told about an American working in England. He noticed that many older homes in London had the water pipes run on the outside of the buildings. He commented to his host that it would be better to have the pipes inside the walls. The Englishman looked puzzled and then asked "But how would you get to them when they froze?" /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

 

[I_am_the_Walrus]

He might be able to tell you how to keep moonshine from freezing.....I forgot to say I am from West Virginia as well/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

 

[noreault]

Put pieces of ice in the rabbits cage. They wil happily chew on the ice and get the water. Last time I looked wild rabbits didn't have heaters for their water supply.

 

[ebeacham]

HOT water will freeze faster under CERTAIN conditions.
put 2 ice trays, one with hot water and one with cold water in the freezer and the one with hot water will freeze faster. However you will notice that the tray with the hot water will have considerably less volume in it . This is because your freezer ( especially a new no frost fridge ) is a very dry environment and the trays have a very large surface area for the amount of volume they hold. Since evaporation has taken away the volume and helped with the cooling that means less BTU's to take way, ie faster freezing.
I would have never remembered this if it were not performed as an experiment for me in freshman physics. I guess I did get something out of those 5 yrs at NC State after all /w3tcompact/icons/grin.gif