Loader help with connecting FEL hoses

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wv joe

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Kioti DK45 SE HST
Tried to connect my FEL hoses today after they became disconnected while bush hogging. anyone have any hints on how to get the hoses connected easily? I pull back the ring on the female end and insert the male, pushing as hard as I can - got 2 connected after multiple attempts, one of them pushed out a bit of fluid. The other 2 just won't connect, like the first 2, one leaks fluid when I try to connect them.
All 4 came off with the bucket stuck about 4 feet off the ground. I cleaned the connections and sprayed WD40 inside the female end to flush it out. Any help is appreciated!
 
   / help with connecting FEL hoses
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#2  
This is a dup thread, use the other version to reply (my browser is having issues). Thanks!
 
   / help with connecting FEL hoses #3  
You may have to wack the end of the male connectors after covering it with a towel... sometimes ive had to push a screwdriver into the female ends to release the pressure.

Usually this only happens after the tractors implement (leader) has sat in the sun and the fluids have expanded though.


you need to equalize the pressure in the lines.

Then you pull back on the female collar and slides the male end in until the collar retracts back over and locks them together.

needs LOTS of force to connect at times
 
   / help with connecting FEL hoses #4  
Wack the ends??? :confused: I always just pushed them against the tire or anything else handy on the tractor.
 
   / help with connecting FEL hoses #5  
Wack the ends??? :confused: I always just pushed them against the tire or anything else handy on the tractor.

Man, i left my loader out in the sun once and there was so much pressure built up i had to wack the end with a mallet to relieve the pressure. even with a towel over the end oil sprayed everywheres.

moral of this story... now i leave my loader under the shed roof cover
 
   / help with connecting FEL hoses #6  
The same thing sometimes happens to members backhoes. Guys do bump the poppets of the QDs to relieve pressure. Fearing I may damage them, I just crack each line where it's the easiest to relieve the pressure then tighten back up. With my backhoe though, I just work all the controls and then connect my lines but the controls are on the attachment side of the QDs. The fel is opposite.
 
   / help with connecting FEL hoses #7  
Make sure you're not under the loader when you do that!
 
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#8  
Relieving the pressure did the trick, got one by pressing a wood block against it, but the other was a tough nut, had to put it in the female end and bang it with a screwdriver and mallet. Murphy's law, I must have interpreted the FEL manual incorrectly, so everything was reversed (up was down, dump was curl), so I figured just reverse them - now up is curl, down is dump......I guess its time to put pencil to paper to figure out what I did!
Thanks all!
 
   / help with connecting FEL hoses #9  
Don't "wack" anything. Once in a great while, one of mine pops off if I hit something while digging. What I do is lower the loader to the ground, shut off the engine, then move the joystick in all directions allowing the bucket to settle on the ground. Moving the joystick in all directions allows the pressure in all cylinders to equalize and the quick disconnect just pops right on. No wacking and no loss of hydraulic fluid.
 
   / help with connecting FEL hoses #10  
Sometimes, like in the OP's case, when the connections are accidentally unhooked, theres going to be pressure built up in the lines. There have been times when no matter how easy i tried to relieve this hydraulic pressure..." smacking with something hard was the only way.

Also, once its running right, use 3 different color tapes to identify both sides of the quick connects. Mine came with color coded plastic rings, but i hear some don't. I also have 4 different colored dust cap sets on mine for the intentional times i unhook it.
 
   / help with connecting FEL hoses #11  
Dmace said:
Don't "wack" anything. Once in a great while, one of mine pops off if I hit something while digging. What I do is lower the loader to the ground, shut off the engine, then move the joystick in all directions allowing the bucket to settle on the ground. Moving the joystick in all directions allows the pressure in all cylinders to equalize and the quick disconnect just pops right on. No wacking and no loss of hydraulic fluid.

I do the same thing. If that does not work I loosen the quick connect with a wrench and let the pressure leak out.
 
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Sometimes, like in the OP's case, when the connections are accidentally unhooked, theres going to be pressure built up in the lines. There have been times when no matter how easy i tried to relieve this hydraulic pressure..." smacking with something hard was the only way.

Also, once its running right, use 3 different color tapes to identify both sides of the quick connects. Mine came with color coded plastic rings, but i hear some don't. I also have 4 different colored dust cap sets on mine for the intentional times i unhook it.

I must have gotten the bargin basement model - found two pieces of what looked like colored scotch tape around two of the female ends (red and yellow), nothing on male ends, that high end end must have come off!
I liked one idea of putting on plastic cable ties, so I marked the male ends (with none, 1, 2 and 3 ties), as soon as I find the right female ends, I'll mark those to match.
 
   / help with connecting FEL hoses #13  
I must have gotten the bargin basement model - found two pieces of what looked like colored scotch tape around two of the female ends (red and yellow), nothing on male ends, that high end end must have come off!
I liked one idea of putting on plastic cable ties, so I marked the male ends (with none, 1, 2 and 3 ties), as soon as I find the right female ends, I'll mark those to match.

yup..that will work just fine. I use the colored electrical tape....cause i have 10 different colors of it in my work van :laughing:.

I know my Parker hose supply company in Coeur d'alene also supplies these nifty colored coiled rings that can slip over and screw onto the hoses for color id. Im probably going to break down in get a set of them. They weren't very expensive as i recall. Better than the tape im using
 
   / help with connecting FEL hoses #14  
My dealer put colored zip-ties on all my connectors so I always know where they go.
 
   / help with connecting FEL hoses #15  
My dealer put colored zip-ties on all my connectors so I always know where they go.
So did mine.
My dealer is no longer in business.
Shame too. Nice guy and the dealer prep on my machine was excellent.
 
   / help with connecting FEL hoses #16  
So did mine.
My dealer is no longer in business.
Shame too. Nice guy and the dealer prep on my machine was excellent.
Mine actually lost the Kioti line for a couple of weeks then got it back. :confused:
Luckily they still carry them as they certainly know how to sell and setup a tractor. 500 hours later, no problems and I even still have the same battery!
 
   / help with connecting FEL hoses #17  
Waite's makes a tool to relieve the pressure safely.

May be only choice other than whacking it with a rubber mallet (cover it with a cloth first obviously).
 
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Waite's makes a tool to relieve the pressure safely.

May be only choice other than whacking it with a rubber mallet (cover it with a cloth first obviously).

Thanks, I'll check that out. Sounds worth having around, especially while lying on the cold ground under the tractor!
 

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