Help with new ym226D purchase

[California]

The tractor hesitates after you put it in gear before it starts moving

That's a feature, not a bug!

They are designed that way to accomplish the heavy load of spinning your tiller or shredder up to working rpm before the load of getting the tractor moving is encountered. The pto is a direct gear-to-gear mechanical drive when you engage the clutch, then there is some sort of restrictor valve that is slow to (hydraulically) engage the Powershift's internal clutches as the transmission's internal hydraulic pump comes up to full pressure.

My YM186D works this way, and this gives it pretty near the same usable horsepower as my larger YM240 with gear drive whose pto and wheels start rotating at the same time. I share a 4 ft rotary mower and 54 inch tiller between them. The delay in the Powershift on the little one makes up most of the 5 hp difference when starting mowing uphill for example. This intentional feature is described in the YM186D sales brochure.

 

[S Putnik]

My understanding is that Yanmars with four digit model numbers are rated by PTO horsepower and three digit model numbers are rated by engine horsepower. If that is true, in your case you would be trading down about 4Hp for two machines with 22 as the first digits in the model number.

 

[California]

Isn't the YM2210 22Hp at the PTO and the YM226 22 gross engine Hp?

That's what I've read. For the Japan market, the hp out the pto is the advertised feature and also used in the model number - because a rice tiller needs some specified horsepower to turn it and that's what the customer is looking for.

In contrast for the US market, test-bench hp for the naked engine is the advertised number and the model number. What gets out the pto will be some 4 hp less for this size tractor.

 

[winston1]

I would put my money on the 226d pulling the 2210 back wards. I don't think the 4 more horsepower or whatever it is will equal the 4 wheel drive difference. The 2210 comes in at 2095 lbs and the 226d at 1973 lbs, a difference of 122 lbs. Not that much. The difference with a loader will be very noticeable with the four wheel drive. At least that's the way I see it. Also factor in the power steering as a bonus. Might even have to factor the internal over run clutch as a bonus.

 

[Smoody]

I love the 2210 but its not as nice of a tractor as this 226d. And I thought about the HP difference but after using the 4wd pushing piled brush it was very noticeable of a difference from my 2210.

The 226d also has power steering, power shift on dash, internal overrun clutch, is about 2' wider at the rear and a whole lot quieter.. those features to me are worth a 4 HP difference.

California is that delay feature a US model feature? My 2210 does not hesitate., Also its not just the trans, the loader is sluggish as well

Winston all documentation I found on the 226d reads it weighs in at 2300 lbs.?

 

[winston1]

I got the 1973 lbs out of the big paper back service manual from Hoye. Listed as shipping weight but tires and all are listed there with it so I assume that is the whole tractor. Seems like there is always different numbers on these things?? Just looked at "tractor data" and sure enough, just as you said, the 226d is listed at 2300 lbs. Pretty sure that 2210 weight is also shipping weight, whatever that means. Bottom line is I don't think there is much weight difference in the two. I still believe you have made a definite upgrade if both tractors are in equal mechanical condition.

 

[Smoody]

I already sold the 2210..took 2 days after posting on craigslist. This 226 is a 1991 model, its definitely an upgrade, however the 2210 is a solid tractor never gave me issues. I'll miss it but I have a nack for finding these tractors at great prices. Just this yr I have purchased and sold 4 yanmars. I have owned the following models

YM1510
YM2001
YM1700
YM2210 two of these
YM2210D
YM226D

 

[California]

California is that delay feature a US model feature? My 2210 does not hesitate., Also its not just the trans, the loader is sluggish as well

Dunno. My YM186D acts identical and its brochure says you can bring the mower blade up to speed before driving forward. That's all I know. The delay is an irritation pulling out of the barn but very useful when tilling etc. I much prefer this to the way starting moving uphill lugs down the YM240 when it has to simultaneously spin up the rotary mower blade.

I wish I could find Yanmars like you do, here in Northern California. Aside from some that came through a VN import house, many with problems, they are pretty scarce. You are very lucky.

 

[clemsonfor]

U know Putnick your right!@

 

[grainger12002]

if delay you mean while shifting the power shift,my 336 has no delay at all,actually very responseive,maybe look at the screen and some fresh hyd fluid