High On Orange, But Developing a Taste For Blue

KiotiJohn · Sep 29, 2004

( Thats a pretty subjective comment. When you simply look at the steel involved in the construction of both and the variable web on the LA 853 it makes this comment somewhat less important. While I can flex the loader on a TC 45, I can not perceive of any on a LA 853. This does not mean the TC45's loader is weaker, simply that it does flex when pushing into an immovable object. )
In case you have not noticed, most of the comments on TBN are subjective. However, most do not tend to insult the poster for no reason. My comment is no less important than yours or anyone else's. John

thcri · Sep 29, 2004

I think the loader capacities on most machines are enough to handle the majority of the work we do. So many people told me the 7308 on my TC29D wasn't strong enough and was weak. Heck, I have never come close to harming it or filling it to the point it would not lift and if I did I found my back wheels coming off the ground. Both tractors are nice and I have been told by others that Kubota's hydro is a bit smoother. I found with my New Holland hydro that after a bit it did smooth out or I just got use to it. I really never noticed it until someone posted the New Holland's wasn't as smooth?? I am not promoting one over the other, I have a New Holland because of the dealer and I think that is why a person should buy is because of the dealer.

murph

JATO_RaT · Sep 29, 2004

However, most do not tend to insult the poster for no reason. My comment is no less important than yours or anyone else's. John 

Allrighty then, I see, ohhhh kay. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

SteveH_CT · Sep 29, 2004

John - Who was insulted here? I think all he is trying to say is that the flex is likely a result of the design of the loader, i.e. it's meant to flex. I personally didn't see anything that could be construed as insulting in the post.

Take care,

fishman · Sep 29, 2004

The only real issue I have with the TC40D that I've used compared to my Kubota b2910 is the fact that the reverse on the New Holland is much slower than forward speeds. In my Kubota, reverse is the same speed as the forward speed. When working with the loader, slow reverse is frustrating (to me).

I'd try them both out and see if one is that much better than the other. A good dealer will make up for a lot of shortcomings, if there are any.

Bird · Sep 29, 2004

( reverse on the New Holland is much slower than forward speeds. In my Kubota, reverse is the same speed as the forward )

John, according to Kubota's specs, your forward speed should be 11.9 mph and reverse at 9.4 mph (pretty close to the same, all right). But if I'm not mistaken, it's a pretty simple adjustment of the linkage on both the Kubota and the New Holland to change those reverse speeds. When I used my cousin's TC29D, I didn't notice any great difference in the reverse speed from what I was accustomed to with my Kubota.

kensfarm · Sep 29, 2004

I was wondering what brand of tractor do you own.. you only have a snapper pushmower listed in your profile?

Riddler · Sep 29, 2004

I would agree from my recent test drives of the TC45DA and the Grand Ls that the Kubota has the smoother, easier hydro, which is a plus. I have to say though that it is just one small difference among many both ways. After spending some meaningful time in and around both the Class III Boomers and the Grand Ls, I honestly believe that most color blind folks would be equally happy operating either over the long haul. However you cut it, both of these are very nice machines.

JATO_RaT · Sep 29, 2004

After spending some meaningful time in and around both the Class III Boomers and the Grand Ls, I honestly believe that most color blind folks would be equally happy operating either over the long haul. However you cut it, both of these are very nice machines. 

Ditto Riddler, I agree completely. I think it comes down sometimes to picking the fly poop out of the pepper and thats about it. As Murph mentioned, having a dealer your happy with and feel comfortable asking and getting questions answered is going to be a major benefit for many folks. Your choice in the end will not be a wrong one.

TCowner · Sep 29, 2004

There have been a few previous posts about the question of whether there was any real advantage to going to a TC45A (or DA) over a TC40D (or DA).

Jim Inman has a very informative post regarding the hydro relief pressures that are built into the tractors. I recall Jim posting that the hydro relief pressures were the same for all of the class III tractors (35,40 and 45).

It would seem that there may not be much of a benefit to move up to the more expensive 45 over the 40.

Now if someone was using their tractor for pto work that requires lots of power like tilling, brush chipping, snowblowing, then the extra pto horsepower may well be worth the extra cost.

But if you are using the tractor for general utility work including loader work then the 40 might be a better buy. Of course if your dealer has a 45 and wants to move it then the 45 may actually cost less.

Just something to think about.