warburtonplayer
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has anyone ever made one from sratch?
Home made loader
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blacksmith
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Check out my thread "Front tires for loader" under Search. I designed one for my 1976 Dayton GT Tractor. I used a 3D drawing software to design the loader. It has a quick disconnect bucket. Here is my loader without a bucket. I started making the bucket this week. If I can help you let me know.
Morkai
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NICE blacksmith! Industrial Strength... 
I built one for my GT2544 Cub, not quite that heavy duty, although it's more HD than the Johnny Bucket model and attaches to the front of the frame without tractor mods. I didn't really layout design plans, other than my head. It does take a lot of fab and measuring, remeasuring, and mockup.
I built one for my GT2544 Cub, not quite that heavy duty, although it's more HD than the Johnny Bucket model and attaches to the front of the frame without tractor mods. I didn't really layout design plans, other than my head. It does take a lot of fab and measuring, remeasuring, and mockup.
alchemysa
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blacksmith said:Check out my thread "Front tires for loader" under Search. I designed one for my 1976 Dayton GT Tractor. I used a 3D drawing software to design the loader. It has a quick disconnect bucket. Here is my loader without a bucket. I started making the bucket this week. If I can help you let me know.
Very nice work Blacksmith . Great lift height for a little tractor. But may I make a couple of comments. I'm no engineer but the thing that strikes me is the sharp angle and relatively small brace in the middle of the arms. You'll have a lot of stress on this point. When you drive into a pile of rubble and hit a lump of concrete or a tree stump it will stop the tractor dead in its tracks. So the elbow and the lower section of the arms needs to be very strong. Also you should get a strong front guard on it to protect the radiator, lights, and pump. The nose of my tractor is often buried in bushes or trash that can hide all manner of sharp points.
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Mith -- I want to build a grapple like the one I downloaded from the Net. It will be easyer and cheaper to get pipe or rod from my local salvage junk yard.
Your forks look great. How is the steering with the loader on the tractor? I want to get some power steering added to mine, but have not found any thing to use as yet.
alchemysa -- I will look into adding a gusset or two at that intersection. I was planning on adding a grill and pump guard.
Your forks look great. How is the steering with the loader on the tractor? I want to get some power steering added to mine, but have not found any thing to use as yet.
alchemysa -- I will look into adding a gusset or two at that intersection. I was planning on adding a grill and pump guard.
Renze
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alchemysa said:
I agree... even more when comparing the loader boom to the size of the cylinders used...
How much is your pressure relief valve set at ? The cylinders look quite big for your tractor.
The grapple design you posted looks lighter than what I came up with. I think if I made is strong enough to handle big logs I wouldnt have the capcity to lift them.
The steering is impossibly heavy with the biggest loads. I think thats becuase of the front tyres though, they pretty much rest on the rims with the big stuff. Need upgrading. Power steering is something I'd like, but its quite alot of money.
The steering is impossibly heavy with the biggest loads. I think thats becuase of the front tyres though, they pretty much rest on the rims with the big stuff. Need upgrading. Power steering is something I'd like, but its quite alot of money.
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I'm using 2" cylinders x 16 stroke with my relief valve set at 500 psi. These cylinders are from a car carrier and are aluminum with 1 1/4 dia. rod. I have tested the cylinders at 750 psi. The frame is 3" square pipe with 3/16 wall.
I do not plan on lifting any large logs but only brush and branches with my grapple. I have the third valve attached and will have a quick disconnect on the boom for adding any cylinders in the future.
I do not plan on lifting any large logs but only brush and branches with my grapple. I have the third valve attached and will have a quick disconnect on the boom for adding any cylinders in the future.
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Just wondering if foam filling the tires would help in the overloaded tire problem with small loaders?
David from jax
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The front tires on my tractor state maximun pressure of 30 lbs. I may upgrade to 4ply tires if I have any problems.
Since this thread is about home made loaders, here is a few pics of the one I built this past winter.
Here is a pic of it after adding the canopy.
The loader is built from 2x3 tube steel and uses 1.5" cylinders with 16" stroke. I did the design on paper and then a ton on measuring and changes as it was built. I have done as alchemysa said, hit many rocks/stumps with it while using it and never had any problems. With the 16" stroke cylinders, it gets a little over 6 feet of lift with the bottom of the bucket level as shown in the top pic. My relief valve is set at 1500 psi and it will lift anything I can put in the bucket, provided I have enough counter weight! You can also see the little bar tires I added to the front of the tractor, these have a 4 ply side wall and don't squat when the bucket is full, it really helped the steering not having to steer with "flat" tires.
I decided to use AutoCad for my next project and am currently designing a small backhoe for the tractor. I have some trenching to do out at my place and also figured it would be great counter weight when I really want to do some heavy lifting with the loader.
Scott
Here is a pic of it after adding the canopy.
The loader is built from 2x3 tube steel and uses 1.5" cylinders with 16" stroke. I did the design on paper and then a ton on measuring and changes as it was built. I have done as alchemysa said, hit many rocks/stumps with it while using it and never had any problems. With the 16" stroke cylinders, it gets a little over 6 feet of lift with the bottom of the bucket level as shown in the top pic. My relief valve is set at 1500 psi and it will lift anything I can put in the bucket, provided I have enough counter weight! You can also see the little bar tires I added to the front of the tractor, these have a 4 ply side wall and don't squat when the bucket is full, it really helped the steering not having to steer with "flat" tires.
I decided to use AutoCad for my next project and am currently designing a small backhoe for the tractor. I have some trenching to do out at my place and also figured it would be great counter weight when I really want to do some heavy lifting with the loader.
Scott
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warburtonplayer
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what is the website you are going to use to build the backhoe. I would like to build a loader for my shibaura. Please let me know.
srsu99
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I had the flat tire problem on my old ford 4000 andhad to front tires filledwith foam. Worked great........for about 4 years. Then the rims broke. So then had to buy not only new rims but tires also. As it is impossible to get the foam out of the tires, or straighten and reweld rims bake together......dont ask me why I know. Those are some great looking aftermarket loaders, bet they are a real conversation peice.
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superfast,
Just curious. Are the front tires on backwards. Is there a reason for this?
Just curious. Are the front tires on backwards. Is there a reason for this?
warburtonplayer - I am not really using any website for the backhoe. I am gathering ideas from a bunch of sites, like PF ENgineering and Cadplans, and designing my own. I did the same with the loader, it is my own design. The loader took about a week to come up with a workable plan, then of course it was modified a little as I built it.
civesnedfield - Good eyes! Yes they are on "backwards". On a non-powered axel if you put them on backwards they are supposed to offer a little better bite when turning and "self-clean" better.
Scott
civesnedfield - Good eyes! Yes they are on "backwards". On a non-powered axel if you put them on backwards they are supposed to offer a little better bite when turning and "self-clean" better.
Scott
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superfast said:
Ok that explains it. I learned something new
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Superfast, your FEL is amazing, but a few other questions if you don't mind.
Is that box grader something you built or bought? Brinly or category 0 lift?
How far off the ground does that box grader lift?
Do you get very good traction? I don't see any rear wheel weights. Fluid filled rear tires?
Overall, how well does this box grader work with your unit?
Is that box grader something you built or bought? Brinly or category 0 lift?
How far off the ground does that box grader lift?
Do you get very good traction? I don't see any rear wheel weights. Fluid filled rear tires?
Overall, how well does this box grader work with your unit?
