homemade chainsaw mill

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podieroe

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i once saw a logging contest where the contestants , in teams of four used volkswagon engine powered chainsaws to cut three and fourfoot diameter logs in seconds. i was thinking about building a chainsaw mill, but large chainsaws(recommended size is 70 cc or larger), can cost upto a couple of thousand dollars, so i was wondering, why not use a lawnmower motor and centrifugal clutch to build a sawhead. kinda like to hear what others might have to say about it. i'm pretty sure you'd have to reduce the speed a bit, and build a bar holder. but i think it can be done. any ideas?
 
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i once saw a logging contest where the contestants , in teams of four used volkswagon engine powered chainsaws to cut three and fourfoot diameter logs in seconds. i was thinking about building a chainsaw mill, but large chainsaws(recommended size is 70 cc or larger), can cost upto a couple of thousand dollars, so i was wondering, why not use a lawnmower motor and centrifugal clutch to build a sawhead. kinda like to hear what others might have to say about it. i'm pretty sure you'd have to reduce the speed a bit, and build a bar holder. but i think it can be done. any ideas?

Is this Red Green?:D

Really though, I would get a high volume pump and a hydraulic motor and do it that way. Thats what I have seen in the logging industry. I have a feeling the motor by itself would lack the torque.

Chris
 
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Look up, linnlumber.com. Linn Lumber Mills makes a kit where you can buy the saw carriage and use your own engine to make a band mill, or they will sell the whole mill kit with everything to build a mill. You just have to weld it up. It looks like they are using a basic engine which would be used on a lot splitter or lawn mower in the pics on their site.
 
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If you google "homemade chainsaw mill" you'll get a whole bunch of them for ideas. One of the best is over on MTF
http://www.mytractorforum.com/showthread.php?t=73710
Most are using the chainsaw itself but there's no reason you couldn't use another engine on the bar, just a lot more work.
Smiley
 
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Is this Red Green?:D

Really though, I would get a high volume pump and a hydraulic motor and do it that way. Thats what I have seen in the logging industry. I have a feeling the motor by itself would lack the torque.

Chris

I like the suggestion Chris made - it gets the engine off the bar. The hyd motor is light and you can connect it to the engine/pump with flexible hoses so the whole bar assembly can move without having to support and move the engine with it.
-Jim
 
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I love the idea of building something from scratch and have even tried doing this on a variety of ideas over the years. One thing that I've learned the expensive, and time consuming way, is that if you can buy it already built, regardless of the cost, you are saving money.

Everything that is already built has gone through a trial and error process. No matter how much thought you put into your design, the unknown will show up and point out what you need to redo, or scrap and do differently.

A proven, time tested product is sold for a profit, but when figuring in what it took to get it there, and what it costs to buy the materials and time to make it, you will be hard pressed to do the same for less on your own. Also keep in mind that nobody is getting rich off of one item. They have to sell a lot of them to make enough to make a living, and even then, profit levels are not all that great. Just try to figure out what the price to make it will be in materials alone and you'll find it hard to compete with a name brand supplier.

An excellent example is with trailers. If you try to build your own trailer, you will spend more in parts then you can buy one already built. You have to buy huge quantities of materials to get the discounts on materials that the trailer builders get, and then have welders who have dont it so often that they can cut and weld up a trailer in the shortest amount of man hours. Until you get to that level, you cannot compete with what the manufacturers can sell it for by doing it yourself.

Same thing applies to mills and impliments and just about everything out there.

Eddie
 
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I saw a homemade mill designed around a vertical shaft engine with a harvester sprocket driving a harvester bar and .404 chain.

YouTube - Sawmill homemade / home built chainsaw mill

My chainsaw is a 5.5 hp on an alaskan mill and it is the smallest I would consider, if I were building one I would stay in the 15hp range. I have often considered that very project however never found the time.
 
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To take Eddys thoughts one step further, ask yourself how much money you would save making your own lumber vs buying it from the yard. I would think you can buy a lot for what you'd put into your homebrew chainsaw thing.
 
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I love the idea of building something from scratch and have even tried doing this on a variety of ideas over the years. One thing that I've learned the expensive, and time consuming way, is that if you can buy it already built, regardless of the cost, you are saving money.

Everything that is already built has gone through a trial and error process. No matter how much thought you put into your design, the unknown will show up and point out what you need to redo, or scrap and do differently.

A proven, time tested product is sold for a profit, but when figuring in what it took to get it there, and what it costs to buy the materials and time to make it, you will be hard pressed to do the same for less on your own. Also keep in mind that nobody is getting rich off of one item. They have to sell a lot of them to make enough to make a living, and even then, profit levels are not all that great. Just try to figure out what the price to make it will be in materials alone and you'll find it hard to compete with a name brand supplier.

An excellent example is with trailers. If you try to build your own trailer, you will spend more in parts then you can buy one already built. You have to buy huge quantities of materials to get the discounts on materials that the trailer builders get, and then have welders who have dont it so often that they can cut and weld up a trailer in the shortest amount of man hours. Until you get to that level, you cannot compete with what the manufacturers can sell it for by doing it yourself.

Same thing applies to mills and impliments and just about everything out there.

Eddie

I agree with Eddie. I work in the trailer business and I could not buy the wheels, axles, tires, couple, jack, lights, and wire for what I could buy my 18' bumper pull car hauler in 2004. I would still need to buy the wood for the deck, steel for the frame, paint, and welding supplies.

Chris
 
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the un finieshed on mtf is mine im runnin an elctric motor with a saw sprocket to run it
 
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i have a complete head unit with chain saw availible because i went to bandsaw .all you need is the tract
 
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I saw a homemade mill designed around a vertical shaft engine with a harvester sprocket driving a harvester bar and .404 chain.

YouTube - Sawmill homemade / home built chainsaw mill
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This is a pretty neat rig and what I envision building if the other more important projects ever get built, or like the one Simplicityguy92 built at http://www.mytractorforum.com/showthread.php?t=73710
There are also several other examples of homemade rigs there on youtube.

You can say what you want about it being more expensive to build than to buy the lumber, but lumber is something you have a continuing need for unlike the trailers mentioned. Once you buy a trailer, it's there and earns it's keep by using it, but produces nothing. A sawmill on the other hand keeps on producing for a lifetime. Every time I have to go buy a board for 5 or 10 dollars, I wish I still had my mill. I could buzz that board and several others like it out in about a minute. Even if you don't have your own logs, there's free ones on craiglist all the time for hauling them away. The only thing you have to watch out for with those is hardware. A metal detector is a good investment.

Besides that, there's the fun and satisfaction of building it yourself. Cost-wise, if you go out and buy everything new, you'll have some bucks in it, but with some forethought and constructive scrounging, you can do it on the cheap, whether it's a trailer, sawmill or most anything.
I'm going to have to live to at least 100 to do all the projects I have planned.
Smiley
 
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I agree with Eddie and Chris . What Eddie said was IF you can buy it. there are times when you need or want something unique or different enough that you have no choice but to build it yourself. Sometimes the mental health aspects of a successful build far outweigh the costs. Then there is the size of the junk pile and how much time you have on your hands.
I guess ultimately it depends.
 
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Right about buying, I bought my slightly used lumbermate for $1200 :thumbsup:
 
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thats a real nice price on the lumbermate :thumbsup:
 
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i understand that there are cost concerns, but i have a 12 hp briggs vertical new n unused, and i do not have a 1000$ stihl or whatever, so i do consider your advice and i will study it further costwise. but lumbermate i believe makes a "slabber" that is essentially a lawnmower engine, with a 52 inch chainsaw bar attatched and a typical lumberbate or alaskan type frame.Once again it is very high priced ! not sure its gonna be worth it, so i thought i'de ask about homebuilt.
 
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This is where my lunbermate came from-http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0oG7nyuQedMuh0BRX9XNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE1azRuN3ZwBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkA1NSVDAwMV8xODc-/SIG=12i9i3thl/EXP=1290310446/**http%3a//www.norwoodindustries.com/en/Home_Norwood_Sawmills.aspx= Maybe can buy mill to put your engine on
 
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I've been looking at sawmills for a looooong time, I hope to be getting one before too long.
At the moment I am hewing a large log with an axe ....

I've used an alaskan chain saw mill, would not do that again.
I've seen Logosol saw mills in operation, they are good. If I was going to have a chain saw mill it would be a Logosol.

After selling the Logosols for several years the company now also offers Lumbermate bandsaw mills for those who want more production. Check out their website and videos:
Wood planer, moulder and sawmills - Logosol
 
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got a panther mill, not exactly what i wanted but i'll try to post a few pics for those of interest, just as soon as the weather warms a bit, its 25 for a high today in tennessee mtns
 

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