Honda's Cog Ad

[Gary_in_Indiana]

Re: Honda\'s Cog Ad

Rob,

That is the coolest thing I've seen in a long time. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif Thanks for posting the link. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[TresCrows]

Re: Honda\'s Cog Ad

I still think Toyota has a small edge on Honda. Toyotas have an across the fleet "slickness" for lack of a better term that is hard to describe. Many don't recognise it at first until they have driven several Toyotas and then drive a Nissan or Honda. That said, the difference between a Honda and Toyota and Nissan is so tiny and diffucult to substantiate that I would buy either a Toyota or Honda product without hesitation. The 99.9 percent perfection vs 99.899 percent perfection essentially cannot be differentiated. One thing I notice about modern cars is that they all look alike and the Japanese cars seem to be becoming to conservative, the colors are to muted, the body work to similar and boring. The so called Domestics (who build their cars in Mexico and Canada) are leading the charge to edgy, take chance styling and colors and for once even have some technology and purpose made engines. The Hummer H2, the Chevy SCR (whatever it is), the Dodge Viper, Fords upcoming new trucks, the new Mustang just for examples. J

 

[r0GuE]

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I tink they all look the same because at the beginning of he design phase, they tell "HAL" (the computer from 2001 Space Odyssey) what they want (a million miles to the gallon, certain degree of safety. specific amount of leg room). At some point, they all arive at tjhe same end result. I agree that there is hints of creativity out there. There is some success to be had by creating these "different" products. I've learned my lesson though... from now on my money is on Honda. Isuzu made a great truck with the Trooper, but the depreciation on it was AWFULL!! Everything counts, including depreciation. Toyota does make good products too for sure. I think the 1% difference you desribed is about my feeling on Toyota (just in the other direction). We went to look at the new Toyota mini-van, but they didn't have any (can't keep them on the lot). And they get full sticker price right now. Honda was that way with the Odyssey until this year. Now you can get good deals since the Alabama plant ramped up production.
I had a 77 Toyota Corola Wagon that is now in the junk yard because of a wreck. I have no doubt that with a can of started fluid, we could kick it over this morning. 96c.i. of can do!

 

[JATO_RaT]

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Actually my Ford truck was made in Kansas with some parts from Canada and some from Mexico and who knows where else. That was back in 93 though. I would probably do well with a Tundra except that on occasions, I need the towing and load capability of a domestic 3/4 ton. The Tundra, while a great truck, can't do that, its pretty light duty regardless of what the ads for it convey. I do like its quiet V8 and very smooth automatic it has. Fuel economy suprisingly is no better or worse then domestic 1/2 ton vehicles.

The Hondas are "The next Generation" auto. Their innovative engines and design attribute to this.

 

[Muhammad]

Re: Honda\'s Cog Ad

I believe that ad took over 600 takes to get right.

 

[TresCrows]

Re: Honda\'s Cog Ad

Actually my Tundra has a fairly substantial tow rating for a light duty truck. It also gets pretty decent mileage. I see upwards of 20 on my typical driving, which is more than my wifes Jeep Liberty by about 5 MPG.

Is that Kennedy fellow nuts. He lives in mansions, flys in private jets, drives huge limosines and keeps and entourage and he wants us to drive mini cars and live in apartments. His statement that fuel economy can be increased by a factor of 5 with the same size vehicles and keep the performance and safety is absolutely insane and so totally ignorant I cannot help but believe he is trying to trick the dumbed down proletariat. Does he think we are stupid? Does he not understand that in a gallon of gasoline there are only so many calories of heat and that the thermodynamic laws of physics are not up for negotiation. The most efficient engines hardly reach 50% and if for example a modern auto was 30% efficient at converting calories of heat into useable energy then an increase to 100% efficiency would only triple mileage. Does anyone expect even Honda to build a car that is 100% efficient? I have had enough of PC and "Popular" science. I also like the way he dismisses any scientist or engineer or anyone for that matter who dissagrees with him as being "not reputable". I think he and the whole Kennedy royality need a trip to the big house or the looney room. Let's see, he has how many HUGE houses? and how much does it cost him and Ted Turner to heat and cool and build and maintain these huge properties? Are the laws of Physics altered for them because of their enlightened state of reason that their mansions don't consume fossil fuels and forests. Folks, we really need a revolution in this country, this let them have their cake attitude is gone to far and s---w the "orange" alert. That is my Memorial day rant, I am going to go burn some fossil fuel---Stop the Ice Age, burning fossil fuels for a warmer, brighter tomorrow. J

 

[r0GuE]

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He gets that data from payroll scientists who ignore the fact that the rest of the energy not coming from the fluid fuel, must come from electricity.