How can this be? Common sense hauling... Fed approved??? DOT Exemption!

[Jcoon]

What is it you think you are confusing us with?

 

[4570Man]

Yes we can and do make the driver unhitch and we put a scale under the tounge jack. If there is a rating we can check it.

Would the tounge weight and the hitch weight be the same? It seems that the jack would be heavier since it痴 a shorter lever.

 

[Jcoon]

Splitting hairs.

 

[Btown]

Let's be clear. DOT can and will ask you to seperate your 10k trailer and weigh it seperately from your truck. I do not know if tongue weight was ever an issue but the gross on that trailer better not be over 10k or your wallet is going to get lighter. You likely will not be moving that trailer without some "adjustments".

Trailers are weighed attached, not separated.

 

[bdog]

Splitting hairs.

Sure it is and while it wouldn't help on the side of the road I bet one could get the ticket thrown out in court over this.

 

[Jcoon]

Trailers are weighed attached, not separated.

Tounge weight is measured with the trailer detached.

 

[Jcoon]

Sure it is and while it wouldn't help on the side of the road I bet one could get the ticket thrown out in court over this.

Probably wouldn’t be issued a ticket, just a violation and made to correct weight issue.

 

[bdog]

Here is a good link with some info on state by state requirements on CDLs / non commercial class A for large vehicles that are not commercial. RV Driver's License Requirements

 

[Ron50]

You've gotten into the discussion of "pintle hooks used as fifth wheels". The last inspector I brought this up with told me that state law, Oregon, mirrors federal law. He said, you're going to love this, that the feds don't have a definition of what a fifth wheel is yet. They were expecting it to take the feds about five years to define what a fifth wheel is. I don't know if this has been resolved.
The pintle hooks that I have bought were to PULL either a 40,000# or a 60,000# pull trailer. Pintle hooks are designed for pulling not carrying. People do it, trailer makers design equipment trailers for crazy tongue weights, but some day it will probably be disallowed and we will be back to tractors with fifth wheels or quick change dump trucks. I've seen broken pintle hooks and surpriseingly they are hollow.

 

[Jcoon]

Here is a good link with some info on state by state requirements on CDLs / non commercial class A for large vehicles that are not commercial. RV Driver's License Requirements

Your way out in left field, this thread is about federal regulations for commercial motor vehicles, once again, non commercial class A has nothing to do with what where talking about. There’s a bunch of useless info we can drag into here for days, but that’s not what the people are talking about here.