How hot is it?

[ultrarunner]

I keep hearing even those born and raised in the Philippines have a difficult adjustment retuning if they are coming from a cooler and dryer climate… say California?

Never lived in a home with A/C until I bought this one… tried it just see if it worked and it did… but my electric spiked too!

Guess no free lunch plus tiered electric means highest rates when A/C needed the most.

I have lived in the Philippines for years, Barain, Dubi and the Abrain gulf. Most people don't kinow what hot is. Ride a aircraft carrier and its 120 in the shade but their is no shade unlless you duck under an aircraft wing and Navy aircraft wings fold.

mark, USN Retired

 

[ultrarunner]

Exactly… same here.

And explaining why a 64*/50% OR cost so much more than a 68*/50% OR goes right over their phd head!

Getting below 68/50 generally pushes us to either very cold chilled water/glycol (leaving coil ~45*) or a OA pretreatment unit or both in this climate.

It’s my nightmare now with 100% outside air serving 6 operating rooms on a system commissioned in 1995.

I keep sounding the warnings replacement is imminent but always no money in the budget…

As we speak putting together proposal for a parking lot trailer mounted emergency cooling unit to operate 24/7… or retire?

 

[JasperFrank]

In the 90's here in Oregon. We've begun the building of a kit pergola. All the hardware is painted black, and first day, these bolts were burning our hands as they were so hot. The hardware is now in water, just so we can touch them.

 

[MAX-24-Dean]

Jstpssng - Yes they have used my little ten acre lake a few times. The water bag toting helicopters. It's way too short for those fixed wing aircraft. I got a call on my cell phone - requesting permission. Of course - I gladly gave permission. What the HEY - it was the Watermelon Hill wildfire and it was coming right at my property. 7-22-2014 almost exactly nine years ago. Really dodged a bullet on that one.

It was the local farmers and their big tractors that quelled the fire. All the dedicated ground equipment was over in the Wenatchee Valley fighting fires there.

Being raised on a farm I've always seen farmers come together to help out in emergencies. Most of us trained with the local rural fire district on how to operate the fire trucks, associated pumps and equipment and were members of the volunteer fire department from a young age.
Drove my first fire truck to a fire at the age of 16, a surplus army 6x6 tanker.

 

[ultrarunner]

Most of my farm cousins are in the local rural volunteer fire department as we're fathers and grandfathers.

They always have one heck of an Octoberfest and Christmas parties.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

Jstpssng - Yes they have used my little ten acre lake a few times. The water bag toting helicopters. It's way too short for those fixed wing aircraft. I got a call on my cell phone - requesting permission. Of course - I gladly gave permission. What the HEY - it was the Watermelon Hill wildfire and it was coming right at my property. 7-22-2014 almost exactly nine years ago. Really dodged a bullet on that one.

It was the local farmers and their big tractors that quelled the fire. All the dedicated ground equipment was over in the Wenatchee Valley fighting fires there.

I have a 55 gallon 3-point sprayer that lives on the back of my tractor this time of year, and a drawbar cover crop disc that I can hook up quickly. It's not big, but it's here, and I can put water on a fire while the pros are still getting their boots on.

 

[MAX-24-Dean]

It’s my nightmare now with 100% outside air serving 6 operating rooms on a system commissioned in 1995.

I keep sounding the warnings replacement is imminent but always no money in the budget…

As we speak putting together proposal for a parking lot trailer mounted emergency cooling unit to operate 24/7… or retire?

Wow, you aren't kidding. 100% makeup air and hospitals don't go tegether in my opinion. I worked at a location in Tucson with the same problem.
Replaced it with a Modular Chil-Pak unit. Transition went very smoothly.
Edit: added multiple return air ducts to the system.

 

[Jstpssng]

Jstpssng - Yes they have used my little ten acre lake a few times. The water bag toting helicopters. It's way too short for those fixed wing aircraft. I got a call on my cell phone - requesting permission. Of course - I gladly gave permission. What the HEY - it was the Watermelon Hill wildfire and it was coming right at my property. 7-22-2014 almost exactly nine years ago. Really dodged a bullet on that one.

It was the local farmers and their big tractors that quelled the fire. All the dedicated ground equipment was over in the Wenatchee Valley fighting fires there.

Your lake grew immensely in my mind. I had it pegged at 80 acres.

 

[oosik]

I've never had AC here. If I keep on my toes - don't need it. As it cools off in the late evening - on come the big fans. One on each end of the house. Suck the cool night air in with one - pull it thru the house and out the other end with the other.

Normally - I get up in the AM and it's 67F or 68F inside the house. By late evening it will have risen to 75F to 78F.

It's kind of like sleeping in a mini-hurricane. But it COOL.

Jstpssng - the little lake is ten acres. Five acres of open water - five acres of shallow water and cattails. My part of the big lake can be from fifteen acres of water to fifteen acres of dry lake bed. Little lake is 80 feet deep. Big lake averages six feet deep. Big lake can go completely dry. Little lake goes up/down a max of 14 inches.

Map of my property -- when the big lake is almost 100% full. Big lake looks like an old army boot. My portion is the sole and heel of the boot. The "leg" of the boot goes off to the left another 800 feet.

 

[ultrarunner]

I've never had AC here. If I keep on my toes - don't need it. As it cools off in the late evening - on come the big fans. One on each end of the house. Suck the cool night air in with one - pull it thru the house and out the other end with the other.

Normally - I get up in the AM and it's 67F or 68F inside the house. By late evening it will have risen to 75F to 78F.

It's kind of like sleeping in a mini-hurricane. But it COOL.

Good design utilizing what you have makes a difference.

Friends had a walkout family room leading to a shaded garden...

Upstairs could be too hot to sleep but always comfortable downstairs... in High School when too hot to study I would pack up and do my homework there... it was great and no distractions.

 

[Thomas]

Wow, you aren't kidding. 100% makeup air and hospitals don't go tegether in my opinion. I worked at a location in Tucson with the same problem.
Replaced it with a Modular Chil-Pak unit. Transition went very smoothly.
Edit: added multiple return air ducts to the system.

Chemicalsbuild I use to over see also 100% outside feed,cooling cost was but the heating cost during winter

 

[deserteagle71]

It was the local farmers and their big tractors that quelled the fire. All the dedicated ground equipment was over in the Wenatchee Valley fighting fires there.

I'm surprised that was allowed (to have non-firefighters fight a fire).

Used to be that's how it was here in northern Nevada - ranchers and farmers would jump on a fire on public land ASAP and knock it down quick. Some years ago rules changed...the BLM no longer allows "untrained and uncertified" firefighters on public land to fight wildfires. Anyone not certified by the BLM to fight fires (meaning that not only must the person be a certified firefighter, the equipment being used must be inspected and certified by the BLM also) will be arrested.

Here's an excerpt from a recent news article I saved:

 

[MAX-24-Dean]

In Oregon state law allows farmers to fight fire at thier own risk.

Farmers, ranchers immune from liability while fighting wildfires

The Oregon Legislature has passed a bill to protect farmers and ranchers from liability while fighting dangerous wildfires, such as the 2018 Substation fire in Wasco and Sherman counties.

www.capitalpress.com

 

[two_bit_score]

In Oregon state law allows farmers to fight fire at thier own risk.

Farmers, ranchers immune from liability while fighting wildfires

The Oregon Legislature has passed a bill to protect farmers and ranchers from liability while fighting dangerous wildfires, such as the 2018 Substation fire in Wasco and Sherman counties.

www.capitalpress.com

A Good Samaritan Law. Usually well worth it.

 

[Complete Turf Care]

Temp 89, heat index 114, dew point 78… Brutal…

 

[ruffdog]

Mid 70's here with about 41% humidity and nice WNW breeze. No more smoke from Canada either.

 

[Complete Turf Care]

Mid 70's here with about 41% humidity and nice WNW breeze. No more smoke from Canada either.

That’s what our temps are in mid winter…

 

[oosik]

Overnight it has cooled measurably. It 46F at 4AM. Expected to reach 80F with clear, sunny skies.

 

[two_bit_score]

This morning's top temps from the West Texas Mesonet.

 

[oosik]

74F @ 9AM. Projected to reach 88F this afternoon.