How many extra Hydraulic Remotes do I need?

Glowplug · Sep 28, 2007

My tractor had 2 sets of remotes on it from the factory. I had my dealer put three on and work it into the initial deal. That's easier to do than have it done later. That's something you could do. I also had several other goodies done that way like a 3rd function loader valve for a grapple. What I did was have him deliver the tractor as configured. Then when the parts came in he picked it up, installed them, and then delivered it again. That's something you could think about doing.

Reg · Sep 28, 2007

Four sounds like a good number.
Two for T'nT, one for angling a blade or rake, one for (don't know, but you'll want/need at least one more than you have known plans for).
Maybe 4+1 ?
Plus a Power beyond off the loader's valve block, for grapple or whatever Skid Steer attachments you plan to rent or own.

BTW, Prince has some good info - most of what has been posted here over the years. Plus tables of exerted force as function of pressure and cylinder diameter, also speed as function of flow rate and cylinder diameter. They list diameter down to about 3/4 inch, so subtracting rod diameter to get retraction force and speed is simplified.

Hydraulic Cylinders Prince Manufacturing Corporation

MtnViewRanch · Sep 28, 2007

PaulChristenson said:
All on the REAR???

What are you running?

I would have to assume your FEL remotes are NOT mid-mount...

This is how my tractor is currently configured. I have the standard FEL joy stick control with a Mahindra electric divert-er valve for my grapple. The control is a button that is in the joystick knob. The 3 rear remotes are Mahindra factory remotes. Tractor came with 2 and I added the 3rd. These currently are used for my top & tilt and a spare for ? The reason for adding 2 more at the rear is to have 5 to be able to operate "tnt" and 3 hydraulics on a rear blade. 1 for angling, 1 for tilting, and 1 for offset grading. Thus the need for 5 rear remotes.

Actually Catman1 in Colorado has 6 for the rear of his M8540 Kubota. He has "tnt" and a Land Pride rear blade that has 4 hydraulic functions on it.

Catman's 4th function that I won't have is that he has hydraulic operated gauge wheels.

So there are reasons to have all the remotes, I guess maybe just being lazy, but as you get older, it isn't as much fun getting on and off the tractor every few minutes.

MtnViewRanch · Sep 28, 2007

Glowplug said:
I can't, for the life of me, think of what you could use 6 rear remotes for. Not that I'm saying theres anything wrong with having 6 remotes. I just don't know what you could use them for. I would love to know though. The more hydraulics I can hook up and play with the better. I can see using 4 remotes in the case of a Top'n'tilt with a box blade using hydraulic scarifiers. That is, if you have hydraulics for both lift arms and for the toplink for the TNT.

"tnt"= 2 remotes
total hydraulic controlled rear blade = 3,
add hydraulic operated gauge wheels = 1

Thus the need for 6 rear remotes. Me, I will only need 5, I'm not going to have any gauge wheels. And as you know Chuck, you have to have the divert-er valve for the grapple.

When you get your PD35 post hole digger, be sure to have your tilt cylinder of the "tnt". It sure makes it easier to dig plum holes.

Rara Avis · Sep 29, 2007

MtnViewRanch said:
This is how my tractor is currently configured. I have the standard FEL joy stick control with a Mahindra electric divert-er valve for my grapple. The control is a button that is in the joystick knob. The 3 rear remotes are Mahindra factory remotes. Tractor came with 2 and I added the 3rd. These currently are used for my top & tilt and a spare for ? The reason for adding 2 more at the rear is to have 5 to be able to operate "tnt" and 3 hydraulics on a rear blade. 1 for angling, 1 for tilting, and 1 for offset grading. Thus the need for 5 rear remotes.

Actually Catman1 in Colorado has 6 for the rear of his M8540 Kubota. He has "tnt" and a Land Pride rear blade that has 4 hydraulic functions on it. Catman's 4th function that I won't have is that he has hydraulic operated gauge wheels.

So there are reasons to have all the remotes, I guess maybe just being lazy, but as you get older, it isn't as much fun getting on and off the tractor every few minutes.

So you have the tilt and tip from the TNT
And then you have the angling and tilting on the blade itself
Out of curiosity...isn't that replication of functionality?....

MtnViewRanch · Sep 29, 2007

PaulChristenson said:
So you have the tilt and tip from the TNT
And then you have the angling and tilting on the blade itself
Out of curiosity...isn't that replication of functionality?....

It is, but with the tilt of both, the blade can be tilted at a 45 degree angle and will make for cutting a ditch with equal sides.

Not really needed, but nice to be able to do.

Rara Avis · Sep 29, 2007

MtnViewRanch said:
It is, but with the tilt of both, the blade can be tilted at a 45 degree angle and will make for cutting a ditch with equal sides. Not really needed, but nice to be able to do.

Hokey smoke...45 degrees...you can build ski slopes...

Glowplug · Sep 30, 2007

All I can say now is . . .SWEET!!
Now I want 3 more remotes!

MtnViewRanch · Sep 30, 2007

Glowplug said:
All I can say now is . . .SWEET!!
Now I want 3 more remotes!

Chuck, do you remember back when you thought that the 2 remotes that were already on your Kubota were going to be enough? I warned you about getting the 3rd, now where are you at, you want 3 more.

You know that before you can get any more, you have to get an implement that doesn't have any hydraulics and you have to get on and off the tractor a few 1000 times so that you can really appreciate just moving that little lever and that does the work for you.

Rara Avis · Sep 30, 2007

MtnViewRanch said:
you have to get on and off the tractor a few 1000 times so that you can really appreciate just moving that little lever and that does the work for you.

Hey you're talking about my exercise regimen...

MtnViewRanch · Sep 30, 2007

PaulChristenson said:
Hey you're talking about my exercise regimen...

And you don't ever get tired of exercising? I did, an hour a day is OK, 8-10 is too much for me.

Glowplug · Sep 30, 2007

MtnViewRanch said:
Chuck, do you remember back when you thought that the 2 remotes that were already on your Kubota were going to be enough? I warned you about getting the 3rd. . .

Yeah, I remember that. It was close to a year ago now. And your advice was what convinced me to get 3 remotes. And I'm glad I did!

MtnViewRanch said:
. . you have to get on and off the tractor a few 1000 times so that you can really appreciate just moving that little lever and that does the work for you.

Fair enough.

IslandTractor · Oct 1, 2007

Just to keep this in perspective guys, most CUT owners would be more than satisfied with two sets of rear remotes. To read this thread makes it sound like you'd be nuts not to pile on half a dozen remotes

. Maybe guys who use their tractors to earn a living and are in the seat Monday through Friday would have a case but the average TBN CUT user just isn't going to find that much use for extra remotes. Let's differentiate between hobbist tractor fanatics and plain old practical CUT users. You don't need a Porsche to go grocery shopping and you don't need 6 remotes to do chores

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Glowplug · Oct 1, 2007

IslandTractor said:
Just to keep this in perspective guys, most CUT owners would be more than satisfied with two sets of rear remotes. To read this thread makes it sound like you'd be nuts not to pile on half a dozen remotes . Maybe guys who use their tractors to earn a living and are in the seat Monday through Friday would have a case but the average TBN CUT user just isn't going to find that much use for extra remotes. Let's differentiate between hobbist tractor fanatics and plain old practical CUT users. You don't need a Porsche to go grocery shopping and you don't need 6 remotes to do chores .

Very true. But one can still dream and drool.

MtnViewRanch · Oct 1, 2007

IslandTractor said:
You don't need a Porsche to go grocery shopping and you don't need 6 remotes to do chores .

You are absolutely correct, we don't need any of this stuff. But it sure makes things nice when we do.

IslandTractor · Oct 2, 2007

MtnViewRanch said:
You are absolutely correct, we don't need any of this stuff. But it sure makes things nice when we do.

I agree, my post was just a little moment of reality testing in case some poor newbie stumbled upon it the day before heading into the dealership.

OK, reality break is over, back to fantasy world.

My latest fantasy is to mount a wireless camera on my brush guard and 5" LCD screen on my dash so I can see exactly where my grapple tines are when I want to slip them under a bush or root. I'm sure I'd be laughed out of Dodge but it sure would be sweet.

mikim · Oct 2, 2007

so I can see exactly where my grapple tines are

Well..... if you'd of bought blue like me you wouldn't have that problem .....

....that sloping hood is one of the major reasons I bought NH ....

markmc · Oct 2, 2007

Thanks for the heads up guys, I took your warnings to heart and ordered five (5) more rear remotes from my dealer. This thread has helped me immensely, thanks again....

joke

haha

IslandTractor · Oct 2, 2007

mikim said:
so I can see exactly where my grapple tines are
Well..... if you'd of bought blue like me you wouldn't have that problem ..... ....that sloping hood is one of the major reasons I bought NH ....

I like blue too but the local blue dealer doesn't deal.

I did not have any trouble seeing the grapple with my CK20. The DK40se also has a sloped hood (not as much as the NHs) but it is just so much bigger that I cannot see the ground three feet directly in front of the FEL which is the critical patch.

Glowplug · Oct 2, 2007

markmc said:
Thanks for the heads up guys, I took your warnings to heart and ordered five (5) more rear remotes from my dealer. This thread has helped me immensely, thanks again....

You're going to regret that terribly. . . . .you shoulda gotten 7 more!