How much tiller will 2310 handle?

   / How much tiller will 2310 handle? #11  
With all due respect, you asked "how much tiller will a YM2310 handle". Right?

Answer -- get one to cover your rear wheels.

But your response is that you'd like to use a smaller tiller for various reasons. So how much you can handle isn't really the question.

I don't agree about the subsoiler / ripper thing prior to tilling -- not at all necessary. Two different operations.

If you're planning to hook up a small tiller to the back of your tractor for a one-time job, just go for it.

I'm still curious -- exactly how wide are your back tires? The correct tiller is one that covers your tire tracks.
If you have ever tried to till hard compacted soil you would understand the ripping first. It beats the tiller to death and is very tough on it. You don't have to do it, it seems to help go deeper faster if it's been ripped prior. I have done both. 4ft is fine for the tractor, it probably even will turn a 5ft if your not trying to till concrete hard dirt.
 
   / How much tiller will 2310 handle?
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Eric,

Did you ever download the - - -

YANMAR YM2310 PARTS MANUAL NPC-1181.pdf

On page-5 it already tells you the maximum capability tillers to use with your model. :)

Here's a hint:
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Oh, we can run this thru the Yandex image translator to English to get ...

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I did download it. Just to look at the parts in the exploded diagrams. I guess I need to sit down and translate all the pages and then print them. I had no idea the parts manual also had info about attachments. And about rice cultivation. Rice is a grass, isn't it? I know bamboo is. And I will be planting grass because the soon to be tilled area is a drainfield. Thanks, I love this forum.
Eric
 
   / How much tiller will 2310 handle? #13  
I did download it. Just to look at the parts in the exploded diagrams. I guess I need to sit down and translate all the pages and then print them. I had no idea the parts manual also had info about attachments. And about rice cultivation. Rice is a grass, isn't it? I know bamboo is. And I will be planting grass because the soon to be tilled area is a drainfield. Thanks, I love this forum.
Eric

It would be really nice to get the OE Yanmar tillers over here. I know Ernie thought so too, but American people didn't think so.

Great about the bamboo. Years ago, I bought a few pairs of those EcoSocks that were a good percentage of bamboo. I never once worn any holes in the heels nor toe areas. Those held up the longest of all the socks I'd ever had.
 
   / How much tiller will 2310 handle? #14  
The correct tiller is one that covers your tire tracks.
That's the elegant solution, doing it right. Looking professional. Needed if you are hiring your work for others. Or want to take pride in your garden.

He sounds like he just wants to tear it up once. (I expect he will later want to till in his soil amendments, too). Leaving tire tracks over tilled ground, to clean up later with his walk-behind tiller, should meet his needs. He might even be able to mount the tiller offset and not leave tire tracks at all.

I agree his tractor can run a tiller as wide as its tires. That's exactly what it was sold for in Japan.

Here's my Yanmar RS1400 tiller (1400mm, 55 inches) on my 24 hp YM240, the US version of the YM2000 that this tiller was explicitly intended for. When I got it home I made a short trial run, shallow, at 540 rpm then 1000 rpm. (It's designed for an even faster PTO, probably only for a final pass).
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And the RS1400 tiller, 55 inches, on my 18 hp YM186D. The US version of YM1510. The little guy is really grunting to turn the tiller if it hits a step-up and has to climb from full depth onto un-tilled ground when cross-tilling. This compact rig fits under my orchard trees better.

Note I hadn't yet learned here in this picture, that the trainer wheels need the axle mounts on the outer side of the wheels. I had mounted the wheel assemblies smooth side out, to not gouge my trees. After swapping sides the wheels don't make ruts.
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   / How much tiller will 2310 handle? #15  
I did download it. Just to look at the parts in the exploded diagrams. I guess I need to sit down and translate all the pages and then print them. I had no idea the parts manual also had info about attachments. And about rice cultivation. Rice is a grass, isn't it? I know bamboo is. And I will be planting grass because the soon to be tilled area is a drainfield. Thanks, I love this forum.
Eric

Try these 2 image translator to text sites. The better the image characters are, the more reliable the translation.



Both work with copy-n-past right off the web too.

If the 2nd site translates in the vertical columns in Japanese, there is an option to 'not join lines' when you hover over the boxes. This really helps a lot.
 
   / How much tiller will 2310 handle? #16  
I did download it. Just to look at the parts in the exploded diagrams. I guess I need to sit down and translate all the pages and then print them. I had no idea the parts manual also had info about attachments. And about rice cultivation. Rice is a grass, isn't it? I know bamboo is. And I will be planting grass because the soon to be tilled area is a drainfield. Thanks, I love this forum.
Eric

BTW, for the Rice cultivation, that was when I pulled each character individually.
Together the sentence description stated, Wet Farmland Cultivation. Bing said it was Water Farmland Cultivation. It really depends on how the symbols are single, partly joined or all joined to pull the real meaning out of it.

Yes, I have had some really fun times translating a few of the manual sections on various forums for others.

On the F-FX Series machines, they have UFOs. We translated that here and got enough know how to make it function better for others with the setup. UFOs are dialed in 3PT controls for specialized functions. Even draft control too. For it's day, it was far superior than anything out on the market in Ag. Kubota couldn't even come close. Mitsubishi did take a good run at it too.
 
   / How much tiller will 2310 handle? #17  
It would be really nice to get the OE Yanmar tillers over here. I know Ernie thought so too, but American people didn't think so.
The VN refurb importers - and Ernie, who imported good used Yanmars - assumed Americans wanted the tillers that had been on the refurb tractors forever. Nope. They didn't sell well here. Ernie said he took a load of salvage tillers to the dump. :eek:

Here's my tiller as found. The last green one, no pto shield. I told them I just wanted the cheapest one. "Ok, how about one with the tip missing off a single tine plus a set of new tines thrown in. $200?"

Oh H-- yes!

I never have replaced the tines. I can't see where there's any need.

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   / How much tiller will 2310 handle? #18  
... And about rice cultivation. Rice is a grass, isn't it?
Yes but its planted in muck. Here's first-pass prep.

I copied this photo from the official Yanmar-Japan website in about 2005.

It seems Yanmars are designed to tolerate driving half-submerged.

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   / How much tiller will 2310 handle? #19  
RS1400 on a YM2000. Fredricks with new tines. Only one they had left at the time. It was recomended I better go get it!!........ That was in 09. The pic. is a small garden of my mothers. Done with a couple HP. walk behind previously. Rock hard Ga. Red clay for soil that wasn't a problem. Sold it quick on CL.. Gone in 2 days for my asking price. What I paid for it Yrs. before. After she Retired and moved back to WV.. Seen your Location. Cinn/Oh 60-70's for me. Hamilton Co.....;)

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   / How much tiller will 2310 handle? #20  
Do you have to break the soil up before rototilling? Of course not. But there are advantages. The chisel teeth will fracture the soil deeper than the tiller gets to and that helps with later root growth. It also helps the rototiller in later passes because the soil is already fractured, so you do fewer passes. There is such a thing as over tilling the soil. With both implements, don't over do it on a single pass.

If this is a one time thing, I would be tempted to do a few passes with the rippers on the box blade, level it and call it good. Especially if I had bone on bone joints.

However, if you plan on other rototilling, I would definitely get one. I loved our Troybuilt, but my current tractor mounted rototiller runs circles around it for ease, speed and effectiveness. The only reason I would keep the Troy built is if you have something really narrow that needs rototilling.

All the best,

Peter
 

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