How much trailer do I need?

/ How much trailer do I need? #1  

atcNick

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I'm looking at getting a kioti ck30 with a brush hog. Front of trailer to rear of brush hog is 16'. Add the front end loader and its 19' front to back. I know an 18-20' trailer would be better, but I'm wondering if I can get away with a 16' trailer and having some of the brush hog hang off the back? Opinions?
 
/ How much trailer do I need? #2  
If you are getting a trailer with ramps that fold over back on the trailer you could let the tail wheel hang over between the ramps. If you need to hang any of the cutter deck over you will need to get a trailer with slide in ramps.
 
/ How much trailer do I need? #3  
I have a 18' trailer with tuck under ramps. When I haul my tractor and bush hog, the tail wheel hands off the back. With my trailer I could handle a 2-3' longer unit.

Will
 
/ How much trailer do I need? #4  
I have a ct235 and an 18' trailer. With the bushhog and loader installed it hangs 3' over. 18' is the minimum you should be looking at IMO.
 
/ How much trailer do I need? #5  
YOu might be able to rest the bucket on the trailer a fram
 
/ How much trailer do I need? #6  
I would not want anything shorter than 18'.

Chris
 
/ How much trailer do I need? #7  
Get a 20' trailer and you won't regret it, length really pays off.:D
 
/ How much trailer do I need? #8  
You will also max out a 7000 lb trailer with that combination.... Pay attention to the available payload on anything you look at.
 
/ How much trailer do I need? #9  
My former(similar sized to yours) L3130 Kubota with FEL and BH barely fit into my 24ft.garage..........get at least a 20 ft.trailer.
 
/ How much trailer do I need? #10  
I just purchased a used trailer and went with 20'. The longer the better. Check your weight. You may need to go bigger than typical 7K double axle. Lots of 9900# options out their to keep you out of Class A license requirements in some states.
 
/ How much trailer do I need? #11  
When I bought my B26 and needed a trailer to haul it from over 500 miles away, I went with a 20 footer with dual 6K axles with brakes on each axle. Never regretted the purchase. It cost a bit more than a typical 7K rated one but is much stronger and pulls like a dream. I can load my LS with FEL on it (nothing on the 3 PH) with plenty of room to balance the load so I don't overload my truck's hitch. IF I recall correctly the trailer weighs a bit over 2500# which leaves me with 9500 useful load which is more than my truck is rated to pull but it does pull the full load very well.
 
/ How much trailer do I need? #12  
Similar circumstance here with my Kioti, bucket and various 3PH implements. My 20' 10.4k is as small as I want (wish I had a 12k) and allows me a smidgen of room to adjust load balancing. My trailer weighs ~ 3200 empty (I carry a lot of stuff in the front trailer boxes) and has ~ 450# - 500# measured tongue weight empty of tractor. I setup my Blue Ox trailer hitch with a measured 15% on the tongue, adjusting the tractor position to get to this point. I then spray painted a white line across the trailer, side - side at the tractor front and rear axles center lines for this balance point. I adjust tractor position depending upon implements mounted.

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/ How much trailer do I need? #13  
I would go with a longer trailer so you have some options in placing the tractor on the trailer for weight distribution purposes. With a 16' trailer, your options will be severely limited. A 18' or 20' trailer will give you more leeway on where you position the weight for a better ride and more stable towing.
 
/ How much trailer do I need? #14  
Get the 20 ft. I have a 16 foot and don't have a loader and I always wish I had at least an 18ft trailer. I carry the tractor and usually something else up front, like an ATV and or a mower and the tractor or tractor BH and an ATV. The BH hangs off the trailer like 3 foot in the latter situation
 
/ How much trailer do I need? #15  
I just bought a three axle heavy duty deck over 16 foot with 4 foot dovetail and I would suggest like others here to go with 20 foot and 12K rating. My tractor and bush hog will fit but I will have to let the bush hog hang over the rear a little bit. It is not an issue since the ramps fold back over the trailer. If I was buying brand new I would go with a 22 or 24 foot unit. I would have preferred a 2 axle trailer but this one came available and was close so I bought it.
 
/ How much trailer do I need? #16  
I have a new holland 1925 , and a bx 24 . And I have a 16 foot trailer that I have had since 91 . The 16 ft is great for the BX . And I can get the new holland on it with a bush hog , if I roll the bucket towards the hitch , and raise the cutter up and support it with a pallet underneath . A 18 or 20 ft 10K trailer is coming up soon .
 
/ How much trailer do I need? #17  
Bigger the better you never have enough room keep it under 10k
 
/ How much trailer do I need? #18  
OP is in Texas and Texas does not have any of that 10k trailer nonsense. As long as his combined truck and trailer rating is under 26k he does not need to worry about a CDL. Other states are different I know.

I would get a 14k trailer with two 7,000lb axles and at least a 20'. It is very rare to hear someone say they bought a trailer too big or rated too heavy. You never know what you will need to haul someday and having a trailer rated significantly higher than the load puts much less stress on the axles, bearings, tires, etc. Trailers loaded near their max capacity have things fail more frequently than trailers with a lot of margin left.

We had a 12k rated trailer with two 6,000 axles. it had 15" wheels. It was loaded to around 11,800 if I recall correctly. It was always blowing tires in the summer heat which I attribute to the tires being loaded at near max capacity. Now we carry the same load on a 14k rated trailer with heavier larger tires and we haven't had a blowout in years.

An extra 4-5' on a trailer isn't a big deal in maneuvering it and the cost isn't a huge difference if you look at it over the time you plan to own the trailer.
 
/ How much trailer do I need? #19  
OP is in Texas and Texas does not have any of that 10k trailer nonsense. As long as his combined truck and trailer rating is under 26k he does not need to worry about a CDL. Other states are different I know.

I would get a 14k trailer with two 7,000lb axles and at least a 20'. It is very rare to hear someone say they bought a trailer too big or rated too heavy. You never know what you will need to haul someday and having a trailer rated significantly higher than the load puts much less stress on the axles, bearings, tires, etc. Trailers loaded near their max capacity have things fail more frequently than trailers with a lot of margin left.

We had a 12k rated trailer with two 6,000 axles. it had 15" wheels. It was loaded to around 11,800 if I recall correctly. It was always blowing tires in the summer heat which I attribute to the tires being loaded at near max capacity. Now we carry the same load on a 14k rated trailer with heavier larger tires and we haven't had a blowout in years.

An extra 4-5' on a trailer isn't a big deal in maneuvering it and the cost isn't a huge difference if you look at it over the time you plan to own the trailer.

I wish licensing was that simple here in NC but it is not. I called up the DMV the other day and the lady told me I didn't need CDL's or class A's if I was under 26K. My Class C CDL clearly states trailers under 10K. I may just go ahead and buy an older 1 ton dump and put farm tags on it. Won't be cheaper but less headache. Gives me another excuse to get another toy from the wife.
 

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