How reliable is Kioti e.g. compared with Kabota?

[murphy1244]

they also built some kabota's I hear...

 

[engine29]

I stand corrected, Daedong did build the DK for CC in the mid 2000's for a 3-4 yr. range while CC was in flux w/ Mitsubishi. Then went to Yanmar.
It was the older series DK's, not the current SE's.

I learned something!

 

[art]

Kioti(Daedong) makes the largest Cub Cadet tractors(at least they did), Yanmar makes their smaller CUTS.

That relationship is long gone by with Cadet.

 

[northcreek2624]

That relationship is long gone by with Cadet.

GOOD! I like my Kioti's in orange....Mike.

 

[gkm]

I've had my CK 20s for > four years (approx. 450 hrs) and it's never, ever caused me any issues. Other than recommended maintenance (use synthetic oil), I've been more than pleased and wouldn't hesitate to purchase (or recommend) another Kioti if or when that time comes.

Sorry, can't speak regarding a comparison.

 

[pickeringchris]

Kioti's are way better that Kabota. My CK27 is the only tractor I've ever sat on but I read some stuff on the Internet so I'm pretty much an expert. Hahaha. I just hit 20 hours today boys!!!!

 

[ritcheyvs]

My 2006 DK45 is approaching 400 hrs. The only unscheduled maintenance was replacing a 3-point link (that I lost after a lynch pin fell out) and cleaning dirt out of the ignition switch. I can't comment on Kubota. But the Kioti tractors they sell today are different from when I bought mine. Better or worse? Can't say.

 

[schweizer]

I have a DK45 SE HST at near 400 hours, too. My only unscheduled maintenance was a pinched rear lighting wire that kept causing the fuses to blow, one month ago.

 

[k0ua]

How reliable is a Kioti compared to a Kubota?.. I dunno.. but I am about to find out..I signed for a DK35se today, I have owned 2 Kubota's, and both have been extremely reliable. No failures. My first tractor (purchased new) was a Long 2360. I had several problems with it, most I was able to repair myself. But those old ag tractors were a far cry from our modern machines.


James K0UA

 

[LD1]

How reliable is a Kioti compared to a Kubota?.. I dunno.. but I am about to find out..I signed for a DK35se today,

You did WHAT:shocked:

In all seriousness though, the DK35 isnt a ton bigger than the 3400, do you plan on still keeping it??? or is the DK35 meant to replace the 3400?

And I have to ask WHY you decided on the DK35? In all honesty, If I was to buy another tractor, it would be a DK40 or DK45. Not much bigger and I dont think much more $$$ than the 35, but stronger loader.:thumbsup:

Anyways, congrats on the new toy, and remember the pics

 

[northcreek2624]

And I have to ask WHY you decided on the DK35? In all honesty, If I was to buy another tractor, it would be a DK40 or DK45. Not much bigger and I dont think much more $$$ than the 35, but stronger loader:

I have to agree with that...not that the 35 is a slouch..Mike.

 

[k0ua]

I have to agree with that...not that the 35 is a slouch..Mike.

Two reasons, one more important than the other.. first reason, the money, but I could have overcame that. Second and most important reason, is my wife had trouble getting on and off of the DK40se. It is just enough higher she had difficulty. She has had many back surgery's and has a more limited range of motion. And she does need to drive the tractor at times. She had no trouble getting on the DK35se. The smaller tires/wheels seemed to make the difference.. Yes the loader is not near as much as the DK40se, but it is better than the L3400HST. And no I cannot keep the L3400HST, it bought the way back into the DK. It may be here by the end of this week.

James K0UA

 

[JonKioti]

"Two reasons, one more important than the other...."

Hey, it's great to see you are getting a new machine, and even better that you are considering all operators' needs.

Enjoy your new tractor..there's always a "could've, should've", but this one is new and it's yours.

Jon

 

[IndyIan]

Two reasons, one more important than the other.. first reason, the money, but I could have overcame that. Second and most important reason, is my wife had trouble getting on and off of the DK40se. It is just enough higher she had difficulty. She has had many back surgery's and has a more limited range of motion. And she does need to drive the tractor at times. She had no trouble getting on the DK35se. The smaller tires/wheels seemed to make the difference.. Yes the loader is not near as much as the DK40se, but it is better than the L3400HST. And no I cannot keep the L3400HST, it bought the way back into the DK. It may be here by the end of this week.

James K0UA

Also for some loader operations the weight of the tractor is more important than the pin rating at full height. Pushing the bucket into virgin soil for example. Also I read somewhere too, that the breakout force on the 35 loader isn't as far off the 40/45/50 loader either, I guess the 35's loader geometry favours breakout force more than the force at max height which makes more sense on a CUT too.
I know I automatically dismissed the 35 when I was buying but after reading a bit more about it, probably I could do everything I've done so far with the 35 instead of the 40, just with a few more trips with a slightly smaller bucket. I'm sure you'll enjoy the tractor!

 

[k0ua]

Also for some loader operations the weight of the tractor is more important than the pin rating at full height. Pushing the bucket into virgin soil for example. Also I read somewhere too, that the breakout force on the 35 loader isn't as far off the 40/45/50 loader either, I guess the 35's loader geometry favours breakout force more than the force at max height which makes more sense on a CUT too.
I know I automatically dismissed the 35 when I was buying but after reading a bit more about it, probably I could do everything I've done so far with the 35 instead of the 40, just with a few more trips with a slightly smaller bucket. I'm sure you'll enjoy the tractor!

Thanks for the info, I will be comparing it to the L3400hst to see what I think. I am keeping my "beater bucket" the one I converted to SSQA on the L3400 for a knock around digging bucket. I will use the 66 inch OEM Kioti bucket for material handling. Smartest move I ever made was keeping the original pin on bucket and converting it. I like having the 2 buckets and they only wanted to give $100 for it in trade, and I spent 124 for the plate, and maybe 20 bucks in cutoff wheels and materials. I am pretty pumped to get the DK and try it out.. but is supposed to be raining Saturday though.

James K0UA

 

[murphy1244]

" Second and most important reason, is my wife had trouble getting on and off of the DK40se. It is just enough higher she had difficulty. She has had many back surgery's and has a more limited range of motion. And she does need to drive the tractor at times"
Your a good man James to be thinking of that. Also makes life easier.:laughing:

 

[LD1]

" Second and most important reason, is my wife had trouble getting on and off of the DK40se. It is just enough higher she had difficulty. She has had many back surgery's and has a more limited range of motion. And she does need to drive the tractor at times"
Your a good man James to be thinking of that. Also makes life easier.:laughing:

That for sure would have sealed the deal for me on the DK40:laughing:

 

[bvanek]

Cub Cadet is Yanmar, Kioti is the brand name of Daedong in North America and Daedong makes tractors for Bobcat, McCormick and Landini (not sure if there are others).

Actually Cub Cadet is still transitioning. They did merge a few years back but Yanmar has their own tractor line and now all utility tractors will have the Yanmar name with their engines. My 7260 Cub Cadet is an MTD with a Mitsubishi engine. 1998. Extremely difficult to find parts for and not available from Yanmar/Cub Cadet because essentially the Cub Cadet utility tractor line does not exist anymore. Only below sub compact garden tractors and on down are now supplied as Cub Cadet/Yanmar. It can be quite confusing and constant research to keep up with all this stuff.

 

[JDAOWNER]

I apologize. I was summing it up. But you did not directly say "nicer"



Kioti is definatally going to be less expensive than a comparable kubota with similar features. It is just the way things work. Kioti is the "new" kid on the block. They havent been around long enough to make their name as well known. Kubota was in the same boat 15 years or so ago. They HAVE to be priced less than deere, CNH, kubota, et al. or they wouldnt sell many tractors.

That is not to take anything away. They are good tractors with MANY happy customers. But along with that, they will grow, and become as well known as kubota and deere. And then you will see them all priced in the same ballpark.

I SHOPED FOR A LONG TIME FOR A TRACTOR TO USE IN THE WOODS. I RECENTLY BOUGHT A DS4110 KIOTI. I HAVEN'T HAD IT LONG ENOUGH TO FOR AN OPINION , BUT SO FAR I'M HAPPY WITH IT. HOWEVER I DO HAVE A QUESTION MAYOBE SOMEONE CAN ANSWER. THE KIOTI DID NOT COME WITH REAR HYDRAULIC OUTLETS. HOW DIFFICULT IS IT TO PUT THEM ON MYSELF? THANKS.

 

[k0ua]

I SHOPED FOR A LONG TIME FOR A TRACTOR TO USE IN THE WOODS. I RECENTLY BOUGHT A DS4110 KIOTI. I HAVEN'T HAD IT LONG ENOUGH TO FOR AN OPINION , BUT SO FAR I'M HAPPY WITH IT. HOWEVER I DO HAVE A QUESTION MAYOBE SOMEONE CAN ANSWER. THE KIOTI DID NOT COME WITH REAR HYDRAULIC OUTLETS. HOW DIFFICULT IS IT TO PUT THEM ON MYSELF? THANKS.

I can't speak to your exact tractor, but on mine, the Rear remotes come as a kit, and I have looked over the install instructions in the service manual, and it doesn't look bad if you are reasonably mechanically inclined and can follow instructions. Also the good news is that the kits cost considerably less than the Kubota ones.