How they steal tractors in my place

[Kyle_in_Tex]

Hi Bmaverick,

My insurance applied 10% penalty for each year of owning the tractor. I had it for 9 years so I got 10 % of the price I paid for it.
I have the possibilty to buy another grey market tractor as many firms in Europe are selling them but I am considering the possibility to buy an official market tractor as it is easier for maintenance. I got a few problems with the AF22 in finding spare parts.
The problem is : those last tractors are much more expensive. So I have to wait or go for a loan. BTW AF120 is 12 HP AF22 is (was !) 22 HP
Phil

Did your insurance only charge you 10% of what they charged you 9 years ago?

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

That situation would be very iffy had it gone to court!
Shooting at your own stolen truck while it was being driven in a shopping mall parking lot?
Her life was likely not in danger.

If she had killed the thief, in many states she would have been charged with murder.
If I had been on a jury, and those were the proven conditions, I likely would have been willing to vote for a murder conviction.

I am NOT an anti gun liberal,..... and I do have a permit to carry.
Shooting for other than protection of life, in a public parking lot, is 100% reckless in my opinion.

You could just vote to chop off their right hand instead.

 

[two_bit_score]

JFrame has not vanished. The two self-defense incidents I cited were very well covered in the media at the time, and that is where I obtained most of the information. I cited them because they are unusual; in the one instance the owner of the stolen truck shooting holes in it as it passed through a parking lot. In the other instance it made the news in no small part because the shooter was a preacher, and it sticks in my mind for another reason; the media reported the two miscreants were running outside when shot and the citizen was inside and shooting through a window, and that is difficult to picture - not impossible but a little remarkable in my mind. Good shooting if it really happened that way. Also, one fellow was hit in the knee and the other in the foot yet to the best of my recollection both hits were fatal, which is remarkable in my view. But apart from those aspects anyone reading the monthly NRA magazines can read of many self-defense situations, each a little different from the others yet all similar in that the good guy with a gun won. Google will show you these news stories but in my view they are not unusual except for the aspects I mentioned.

So far as what I have been told by LEOs, often when they are teaching classes, at least where I live the LEOs are fed up. Their advice is constructive if lacking in the liberal, touchy-feelie big city ideology. I have considered it wise and cogent advice that I hope I do not have to ever use. But if I do I hope I have the presence of mind to take the advice.

You’ll probably wind up in jail. You seem to be looking for a chance to pull the trigger.

 

[EuroYanmar]

Did your insurance only charge you 10% of what they charged you 9 years ago?

Unfortunately not Kyle !

Phil

 

[fried1765]

You’ll probably wind up in jail. You seem to be looking for a chance to pull the trigger.

AGREED !!!!!!

 

[mred2]

I believe that you should not own a gun for defense unless you are able to kill someone. If someone is coming at you and you have a gun for defense, you must be willing to pull that gun, point that gun, and if needed to pull the trigger and kill that person. If you are not, they can take the gun from you and kill you. You do not point a gun at someone unless you or someone is in danger. If you have to pull the trigger, it is two shots, dead center mass. No more, no less. If you are not in danger, do not pull the gun. Let the police handle it. It gets me when I hear of people that empty their guns, with bullets flying everywhere. And sometimes it is the LEO's that do this.

 

[5030]

I believe that you should not own a gun for defense unless you are able to kill someone. If someone is coming at you and you have a gun for defense, you must be willing to pull that gun, point that gun, and if needed to pull the trigger and kill that person. If you are not, they can take the gun from you and kill you. You do not point a gun at someone unless you or someone is in danger. If you have to pull the trigger, it is two shots, dead center mass. No more, no less. If you are not in danger, do not pull the gun. Let the police handle it. It gets me when I hear of people that empty their guns, with bullets flying everywhere. And sometimes it is the LEO's that do this.

I'm on the fence wiith your comment. I own multiple firearms but to me, they are tools only. I hunt and I need those tools. I also own a couple handguns and have a CCW and carry as well. Having said that I full well know the responsibility involved and accept the consequences of my actions should the need arise.

Having said that, If the need arose, I would not hesitate to use one and I would shoot to kill my assailant no question on that. I look at that same as hunting, one shot, one kill. No difference except the quarry has 2 legs instead of 4.

 

[Cougsfan]

I don't agree at all. There ar ways to keep your equipment from being stolen. Few people want to go through the expense and more importantly, the BOTHER. Security ALWAYS involves inconvenience.

Of course, location always figures big into the problem.

Of course you can hire an armed guard, and hope the guard doesn't steal your machine. Unfortunately theft and dishonesty are parts of our collective societal life. You can worry your self to death and/or go to paranoid levels of protection and security. Or you can become less attached to your material possessions and just live your life without letting them rule you.

 

[fried1765]

I believe that you should not own a gun for defense unless you are able to kill someone. If someone is coming at you and you have a gun for defense, you must be willing to pull that gun, point that gun, and if needed to pull the trigger and kill that person. If you are not, they can take the gun from you and kill you. You do not point a gun at someone unless you or someone is in danger. If you have to pull the trigger, it is two shots, dead center mass. No more, no less. If you are not in danger, do not pull the gun. Let the police handle it. It gets me when I hear of people that empty their guns, with bullets flying everywhere. And sometimes it is the LEO's that do this.

SO TRUE !!!!!

 

[dadiehl]

Holy smokes this thread took a curve. One NEVER says shoot to kill. That will get you jammed up. One shoots center mass because it’s easiest to hit period. One shoots to stop the action of who you are shooting at. That said to save my property? Who on TBN Doesn’t have a jack *** in the family or a great friend who has that jack *** in their family? PA is a pretty gun friendly state but it would not pan out if you shot at a simple thief here.