how to mount a tactical shotgun

   / how to mount a tactical shotgun #91  
...and how about we just kill the venomous snakes that get to living in too close for comfort, and not every harmless variety encountered, as my S-I-L insists that my B-I-L do- they do keep the nuisance rodent populations down.

Not speaking to you directly MercDV, just saying it here different 'cause you listed a lot of different tacticool weapons...

That is probably because I have lived in areas that have a lot of venomous snakes my whole life. On my property, I only kill the ones that get up next to the house or in an area where my animals are. I leave the rest of them alone. It isn't hard to run across a good many of them in 50 years when you live and work in their territory. I don't kill harmless ones. I know how to identify the snakes in the areas I live. As a matter of fact, I pulled a kingsnake out of my garage the other day and walked him to the edge of my property and let him go. When I worked on the golf course we had to kill all of the poisonous ones for liability reasons but I do not work there anymore so I can be more selective on the ones I kill now. I promise I'm not one of the ones you have to worry about. I even taught my kids how to trap them and identify them before they make a decision on ending them. :D I'm actually a catch and release kind of guy for everything I do whenever possible.
 
   / how to mount a tactical shotgun #92  
Okay, I'm just not a big fan of using a tactical shotgun for snakes or any other gun. If the OP wants to get a gun, I still say get something like a Judge which will be 100% legal to carry on your property. This is also coming from having looked at images and specs for the Op's tractor. There isn't a whole lot of room in or around the operator area for a long gun mount on the smaller tractors without it sticking out or getting in the way. If I had to do it and the OP is set on getting a shotgun, I'd consider something like the pic below where the AR is mounted as long as there is enough room for it to fit with clearance (NOT using suction cups like in the picture). I would create a real mount and angle the muzzle down more. My rifle was mounted in that configuration in my old patrol car and I liked it being at an angle. It was in reach and the muzzle is pointed in a safer direction.

I know there are reasons to carry rifles and shotguns out on some properties and I have no problem with that. When I lived in Tennessee and went out on the mountain property, I always had my .308 with me because of the wild hogs, dogs (in packs), and bears. Where I live now I only carry a pistol because of the amount of animals with rabies or distemper encountered in our area. The hogs have moved on from here and I haven't seen the black bear since last year so the treat is minimal. I think the land dictates the need and some of us are lucky not to have major problems where we live. At least that is the case for where I live now. I still won't personally use a gun to kill a snake.

But like some pointed out, the OP did ask for options so here is another option.

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   / how to mount a tactical shotgun #93  
Okay, I'm just not a big fan of using a tactical shotgun for snakes or any other gun. If the OP wants to get a gun, I still say get something like a Judge which will be 100% legal to carry on your property. This is also coming from having looked at images and specs for the Op's tractor. There isn't a whole lot of room in or around the operator area for a long gun mount on the smaller tractors without it sticking out or getting in the way. If I had to do it and the OP is set on getting a shotgun, I'd consider something like the pic below where the AR is mounted as long as there is enough room for it to fit with clearance. I would angle it down more though. My rifle was mounted in that configuration in my old patrol car and I liked it being at an angle. It was in reach and the muzzle is pointed in a safer direction.

I know there are reasons to carry rifles and shotguns out on some properties and I have no problem with that. When I lived in Tennessee and went out on the mountain property, I always had my .308 with me because of the wild hogs, dogs (in packs), and bears. Where I live now I only carry a pistol because of the amount of animals with rabies or distemper encountered in our area. The hogs have moved on from here and I haven't seen the black bear since last year so the treat is minimal. I think the land dictates the need and some of us are lucky not to have major problems where we live. At least that is the case for where I live now. I still won't personally use a gun to kill a snake.

But like some pointed out, the OP did ask for options so here is another option.

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Thanks Merc.

Is that your setup? If so, do you have other pictures of the mount (AR) on the side? Would like to see how that was mounted.
 
   / how to mount a tactical shotgun #94  
Nope, that is not my setup. If it were mine, I would consider having a post coming up from the loader frame near where it attaches to the tractor frame and then mounting the rifle bracket on top of that at the selected angle. It wouldn't be hard to adapt a regular vehicle rifle mount to sit on top of the fabricated post mounted to the loader frame. I personally wouldn't mount it on the cowl like the image shows. They appear to be using a suction cup rifle mount in that image. I was just using that image to show the position and placement. I sure as heck wouldn't use a suction cup like they did on a tractor that bounces all over the place.

I edited my previous post to make sure that was more clear.
 
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   / how to mount a tactical shotgun #95  
I've already addressed the LOS issue. Pics (and reality, unless your a serious midget) show that's it's a non-issue.

As far as soiling and debris: It's a tractor without a cab. Unless you put the firearm in an hermetically sealed container, it's gonna get dirty.

On my HBAR, I close the dust cover and call it good.

I sit corrected- but as you agreed- from those standing-alongside POV pictures, it looked very obstructive- Nice rebuttal with awesome pictures!

Also, as regards soiling//debris, it just seems like muzzle [or loading port/chamber]- down would use gravity to limit it somewhat vs the open areas point up or front/back- at least that's what I was always taught.
 
   / how to mount a tactical shotgun #96  
That is probably because I have lived in areas that have a lot of venomous snakes my whole life. On my property, I only kill the ones that get up next to the house or in an area where my animals are. I leave the rest of them alone. It isn't hard to run across a good many of them in 50 years when you live and work in their territory. I don't kill harmless ones. I know how to identify the snakes in the areas I live. As a matter of fact, I pulled a kingsnake out of my garage the other day and walked him to the edge of my property and let him go. When I worked on the golf course we had to kill all of the poisonous ones for liability reasons but I do not work there anymore so I can be more selective on the ones I kill now. I promise I'm not one of the ones you have to worry about. I even taught my kids how to trap them and identify them before they make a decision on ending them. :D I'm actually a catch and release kind of guy for everything I do whenever possible.

Cool- I just have PTSD/Backlash Syndrome because of my outlaws, who kill any snakes they see with extreme prejudice, despite living in an area where venomous snakes are so unlikely that I have never seen one, and I LOOK for snakes.

Thanks for 'splaining, not that any justification was necessary, I just really appreciate what snakes do in the way of rodent control, and in the case of kingsnakes- venomous snake control.

My SWMBO was initially moderately intimidated by them, but after the 1st 3 or 4 years of my bringing them for her to see, she has mellowed enough to send me the attached picture at work, after getting our dogs to go in
the house and stop harassing it.Corn snake.jpg

 
   / how to mount a tactical shotgun #97  
Personally, I wouldn't mount a gun like those where it could "sweep" anyone when its in the mounting bracket.

Aaron Z
 
   / how to mount a tactical shotgun
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#98  
Guys
I forgot all about this post sorry. It did bring up some good discussions and some good ideas. To carry or not carry is a personal choice everyone should respect each other's choice.
There were very vaild ideas brought up. Sorry carrying the big stick is not one for me if it works for you great.

The Judge and Shockwave are out of my price range right now. I would like to get a Shockwave.

So what I ended up with is a Mosseburg 88 with a pistol grip. ( still on lawawy) The mount will be something on the ROPS. It also be something to protect thge gun from brush and dust .Space is at a premium on my tractor.

Snakes are not the only critters, just the only one that has showed up. Once I start clearing again may disturb something that does not want to be disturbed.
 
   / how to mount a tactical shotgun #99  
Personally, I wouldn't mount a gun like those where it could "sweep" anyone when its in the mounting bracket.

Aaron Z

Good point. I'm sure a bunch of people have been injured and/or killed by that. Just like all the injuries and deaths from those "Miami Vice" type shoulder holsters.
 
   / how to mount a tactical shotgun #100  
Not a bad choice. I just carry a revolver loaded with a mix of snake shot and solids. That way, whether it is a snake or coyote, I can take care of it if it is within a reasonable range.
 

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