How to rid Coyote's

[Trials]

Anyone know how to make a poison station that will only work with youtes?
I'll have to check if it legal of course.

Absolutely, live trap them and administer a lethal injection but only to the animals you want to destroy.

 

[Luke'sScreenName]

Absolutely, live trap them and administer a lethal injection but only to the animals you want to destroy.

Lethal lead injection maybe? Has anyone tried live trapping a coyote? I'd think it would be near impossible and only once per group.
I did once randomly have one in a live hog trap.

 

[kidr]

With the decimation of wolves in some parts of the north US and Canada an alliance has sprung up. Wolves and coyotes are mating. The resulting coy-wolf is bigger stronger and more aggressive than the coyote. Mess with nature and she messes back. Be careful what you wish for.

 

[MF283]

With the decimation of wolves in some parts of the north US and Canada an alliance has sprung up. Wolves and coyotes are mating. The resulting coy-wolf is bigger stronger and more aggressive than the coyote. Mess with nature and she messes back. Be careful what you wish for.

Yep kidr, we are pretty good at destroying things that seem to manage themselves with time, after all, we are invading their space.
Having said that, management is a necessity this day & time, deer, turkey & yotes are more prevalent in these part's than ever before, sometimes i have to question management practices that are put forth by the Wildlife officials.

Ronnie

 

[EddieWalker]

With the decimation of wolves in some parts of the north US and Canada an alliance has sprung up. Wolves and coyotes are mating. The resulting coy-wolf is bigger stronger and more aggressive than the coyote. Mess with nature and she messes back. Be careful what you wish for.

One of the great mysteries is why the wolf population is declining when their food source is increasing. I've read several biologist theorize that it's part of evolution and their time on earth is nearing it's end. Why did the saber tooth tiger disappear? While we have absolute proof that humans have destroyed some species to extinction, we are not to blame for everything.

 

[Raspy]

^^^^^^ Another reason why I don't like shooting animals for fun. What is the fun part of watching an animal suffer?

 

[Sysop]

^^^^^^ Another reason why I don't like shooting animals for fun. What is the fun part of watching an animal suffer?

For fun? Watch it suffer? Anyone you know who does these things, needs committed...

For food or as a protection necessity only. Kill shots only. If you don't "turn their lights out" immediately with the first shot, you are a failure. You did not wait for the PROPER shot and you did not arrive with the proper skills.

 

[MacLawn]

Right on Sysop. 'yotes might need killin', but only when they NEED killin'. Which, around here is about all the time. Not native in this area, but they've taken up residence real good. Hunting should be about 98% practice, scouting, then maybe a good kill for food or get shed of problem coyotes.

 

[Raspy]

How many people "wait for the proper shot and have the proper skills" when shooting coyotes, for instance? I understand nuisance animals, putting food on the table, etc. But I hear all the time about using coyotes for target practice or teaching kids to shoot by going after coyotes. Proper shot? Hardly. Most folks that shoot coyotes, that I've encountered, just consider them vermin and don't care at all about the consequences or value the animal in any way. Even on this site I've read proud stories of shooting animals, on vacation, in other lands, just for fun. Just asking, why is that fun?
We have a lot of wild horses around here, see them all the time. If anyone started shooting them for sport all h*ll would break loose, and they are a huge nuisance. Dogs are OK, but only wild dogs. Shoot a tiger and there is an international uproar.

 

[dodge man]

Of course Raspy saved a young coyote and has pretty strong feeling towards them. I agree with his idea, why shoot them just for the sake of it. I admit I've shot a couple but we have also lost pets to them, or so we assume. Like someone else said earlier, its probably easier just to put the pets up at night. Ground hogs and skunks fall in the same catetegory, pretty much just shoot them on site. Once again, is this the correct attitude? I can't say whats right or wrong, its up to each person to decide.

 

[MacLawn]

Reckon I was raised real old fashioned. No, I KNOW I was! Me Pappy taught me way back to only shoot what I intended to eat, unless it was something about to cause me and mine harm. We had no coyotes then. But it still works. I don't shoot crits for the so called fun of it. Serious business for me. If I shoot it, we eat it, unless something like a coyote, which I have never even seen while hunting. I'm for ethical hunting/fishing, etc.

 

[prichard]

I wonder if anyone eats them.

 

[k0ua]

I wonder if anyone eats them.

What? coyotes? You have got to be kidding... No coyote stew for me thanks. "dig deep, pups in bottom"

 

[Snowback]

Our current home is in mid size town north of Houston. We are close to the West Fork of San Jacinto river and see wildlife all the time as there is a large watershed that has remained undeveloped. In this area of the county there are probably 500,000 people and all sorts of roads, sounds, industry, etc... all around us. As I was driving home Monday night around 10pm, I rounded the corner and there were three healthy size coyotes at the intersection of two fairly busy roads and they were just sitting at the corner watching traffic. There are still a handful of wooded tracts around here, but also a few thousand homes.

Interestingly, on our neighborhood website there have been a rash of reported missing cats and small dogs... I guess nature will find a way when humans invade the space that once belonged to nature. I just wish the coyotes could take down more of the hundreds of wild hogs here that like rototill up the yards! (And there is technically no shooting in the City limits, so these Bow hunting videos are very interesting.)

Also agree with proper dispatch, and shoot to kill when food hunting and for necessary population control. I may have missed the post were someone was making animals suffer in this thread, but that should never be done. I've heard stories from back home of a couple guys using .22s to randomly shoot at Moose and Bear. I hate that and would like to twist those guy's noses... Not sure if they were ever caught, but the Game Wardens were on the prowl. That type of thing is very taboo when you grow up hunting for food.

I appreciate Raspy's observations on this one as well. I have similar discussions with people when it comes to snakes. I love most of them as they control rats and mice, but so many people instantly kill them all on sight. If it's venomous and coming for my kids, then lights out, but if not I just send them on their way.

Definitely need a proper balance in all things.

 

[Snowback]

Also - just think about what a billion people in India would think of a typical American slaughterhouse... (Excuse me while I go grab a burger.) Take care all! :licking:

 

[westcliffe01]

You shoot them to modify their behavior. I don't think we will ever be rid of them. If they keep their distance from your livestock and home, no one would bother them. But their own population growth forces them to expand their domain and the only space left is what people occupy. There are many states and counties that now have coyotes where none had been seen in decades or possibly since the advent of European settlers in the US.

Keeping coyotes in check is not something you can have the average kid do, or even the average deer hunter. Just try it, you will never see one, since they see/smell/hear you first and will stay back in the brush where they can see you but you cannot see them. It requires a lot of investment in time and skill which is beyond what about 90% of people are willing to invest. They are a small target and are constantly moving, so connecting with them is much harder than deer hunting.

 

[Raspy]

I appreciate all of your thoughtful and ethical responses. Good to hear them. Fortunately, we haven't been harassed by any of the wild population around here. No outside garden, no pets out at night. No stalking from mountain lions that I've noticed. My neighbor had a bear in her yard recently, but it was a nuisance bear. We hear coyotes every night. The rabbits and deer are just thick here. My neighbor was out yesterday with his shotgun protecting the fruit trees from chipmonks. My other neighbor can't raise a garden because of the rabbits and deer. The rabbits are like flies and just can't be stopped no matter how many he shoots.
I would not want to be confronted by a mountain lion, bear or pack of coyotes out on the trail and I'm always armed when I'm out there. One of the spots I go has bear claw scratches all over the trees. Never know when the Jeep or the quad might break down and I'd be walking home. But that's just self defense and common sense.

 

[two_bit_score]

They are very hard on our young deer & turkey's. Anyone know how to make a poison station that will only work with youtes?
I'll have to check if it legal of course.

>>>>>The M-44 is a spring-operated device used to deliver a toxicant (sodium cyanide) to control coyotes. A fetid bait is used to attract coyotes to pull the device. When the coyote pulls the baited cyanide capsule holder with its teeth, the spring ejector releases, propelling powdered sodium cyanide into the animal’s mouth. The animal becomes unconscious within a few seconds and dies within a short time (Wade 1982).

The M-44 is relatively selective for canids, and selectivity for coyotes can by enhanced by using baits attractive to coyotes. However, other species such as foxes, dogs, raccoons and skunks will also pull M-44s. Livestock occasionally pull M-44s. M-44’s are most effective during the cool months of fall and winter and least effective during hot summer months.

Sodium cyanide is a restricted use pesticide. M-44 applicators must be trained and licensed by the Texas Department of Agriculture. Use of the M-44 is limited by 26 use restrictions set by the Environmental Protection Agency. The M-44 is relatively selective, easy to set, environmentally safe, of little risk to humans, and effective for coyote control if properly used and maintained.<<<<<

Lethal options for controlling coyotes << Texas Natural Wildlife

Very interesting article.


TBS

 

[two_bit_score]

Our current home is in mid size town north of Houston.

Interestingly, on our neighborhood website there have been a rash of reported missing cats and small dogs... I guess nature will find a way when humans invade the space that once belonged to nature. I just wish the coyotes could take down more of the hundreds of wild hogs here that like rototill up the yards! (And there is technically no shooting in the City limits, so these Bow hunting videos are very interesting.)




Definitely need a proper balance in all things.

Those wild hogs have NO NATURAL predators locally. They are the top of the food chain, for the most part, in this area.

TBS

 

[k0ua]

Those wild hogs have NO NATURAL predators locally. They are the top of the food chain, for the most part, in this area.

TBS

Yep, ain't no coyote going to take on a hog. Not when there are kitties and puppies to eat. Along with the other small wildlife. Now the hogs would sure eat a coyote if they could catch one.!