rpeter
Silver Member
Hate to say it but I kinda agree with Duffster. If you have small kids then you can not leave it unsupervised. 
How to secure tractor while operating PTO generator
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LarryD
Veteran Member
I think you answered your own question, lock it in the garage.
Depending on the length of pipe necessary to exhaust outside, you could add a small blower to the end to assist.
Home - Nederman
Depending on the length of pipe necessary to exhaust outside, you could add a small blower to the end to assist.
Home - Nederman
Dr_Zinj
Veteran Member
Even with a pipe on the exhaust, and a blower on the pipe for negative air pressure to suck it out, you're going to get exhaust gas buildup in an enclosed garage; unless you have some pretty big holes in it. Back when I was working on the shop floors, in the winter time, that wasn't a big problem as we'd be moving trucks and equipment in and out every hour or so, and the roll up doors let a big exchange of fresh air in. But there were still too many times (once or twice each winter) we'd have guys with bright red faces and splitting headaches (signs of CO poisoning) from doing engine tests inside and the doors hadn't been opened in a while, even though the exhaust system was running full out.
Only thing you can do then is transport them to the base Emergency Room for oxygen. And they'd be off the floor for a day or two until fully recovered. Then we'd have the OIC hammering us about safety for the next 2 weeks.
If the garage is connected to the house, don't run it inside.
If the garage is separated, open the big doors first before going inside if it's running inside. Locking the doors is sufficient for safety/liability
If it's under a car port, or open shed, or even totally outdoors, it should be in some kind of fenced in area with a locking gate so no kids can just wander in. (Just like a lot of towns have swimming pool regulations to keep kids from wandering in and drowning.)
If you want to secure it from theft while it's running unattended, best thing I've seen is a logging chain wrapped around the axle and padlocked to a ring set in concrete in the floor/pad. And I recall that in the old days with antique tractors, they'd pull a rear wheel off and run a belt over the axle as an erzatz PTO to drive equipment; which makes driving the tractor off kind of hard.
Only thing you can do then is transport them to the base Emergency Room for oxygen. And they'd be off the floor for a day or two until fully recovered. Then we'd have the OIC hammering us about safety for the next 2 weeks.
If the garage is connected to the house, don't run it inside.
If the garage is separated, open the big doors first before going inside if it's running inside. Locking the doors is sufficient for safety/liability
If it's under a car port, or open shed, or even totally outdoors, it should be in some kind of fenced in area with a locking gate so no kids can just wander in. (Just like a lot of towns have swimming pool regulations to keep kids from wandering in and drowning.)
If you want to secure it from theft while it's running unattended, best thing I've seen is a logging chain wrapped around the axle and padlocked to a ring set in concrete in the floor/pad. And I recall that in the old days with antique tractors, they'd pull a rear wheel off and run a belt over the axle as an erzatz PTO to drive equipment; which makes driving the tractor off kind of hard.
JohninCT
Platinum Member
Sounds like you need some kind of portable fence. Maybe something like this dog kennel
PetSafe Preferred Dog Kennel, 6 ft. W x 8 ft. L x 4 ft. H - 3606504 | Tractor Supply Company
As far as running the tractor inside the garage if its attached to your house don't do it. People can and do die every year from CO poisoning from malfunctioning furnaces. Don't risk it.
PetSafe Preferred Dog Kennel, 6 ft. W x 8 ft. L x 4 ft. H - 3606504 | Tractor Supply Company
As far as running the tractor inside the garage if its attached to your house don't do it. People can and do die every year from CO poisoning from malfunctioning furnaces. Don't risk it.
Too much work lol. After talking with the wife it looks like we will be looking into a whole house generator with an auto transfer switch. I'm still going to keep the PTO generator as it will work well if I have to power the welder away from the house.
Thanks everyone and Merry Christmas!
Thanks everyone and Merry Christmas!
whistlepig
Elite Member
We have a portable generator. This was a good post showing some of the issues for those that are considering a PTO generator. Securing a portable generator is not much different than securing a PTO generator. Children must be protected from both.
taborekle
Gold Member
I understand you're pursuing a whole house generator and transfer switch. If it were me, I'd hang a sign on the tractor with generator warning that it's dangerous. Then go to my neighbors with the kids I'm concerned about and let their parents know what my concerns are for their safety and my equipment. After that, I think I'd be done.
PILOON
Super Star Member
Extended exhaust will be a problem!
Added lengths of piping will cause back pressure and you'd risk overheating the engine.
I'd suggest perhaps a short flex pipe to simply direct the exhaust to the outlet and then a through the wall fan (or even a window fan)to draw and exhaust the fumes.
Also another opening (window?) to allow fresh air to enter for replacement.
Moving air will be your friend as even the engine heat will rapidly warm up that garage.
PS; I once rigged up a small portable genny with piping to exhaust to the outdoors and that pipe got hot enough to scorch my hands and I swear I could hear the oil boiling.
JDGreenGrass
Veteran Member
There. You fixed it.
2 things I will never understand....Liquid in tires and a pto generator for a house.??
Call me whatever you want. I will never understand those 2 things.:confused2: