How would you handle this neighbor issue?

[Robert_in_NY]

Sounds to me like you neighbors wanted the property that you bought, but couldn't afford it. They are mad/jealous that it is now yours and not theirs.

Hopefully they won't spray any 2-4d or other volitile herbicide on their side of the line that would drift onto your vineyard.

When my grandfather deeded us the 14.5 acres we live on we had it surveyed. He was dividing a 40 between us and my mother. There is a county paved road on the front side of the property that runs about 100 feet inside the property line (on our side) for the length of the 40. We basically own a 100' strip in our neighbors yard across the street.

My neighbor came over and asked what those survey stakes were doing in his yard. I told him that that was the property line. Actually within 15 feet of his house. He said that the woman he bought the house from told him that he owned "to the road". I asked why he didn't have it surveyed and he said that he believed her. Goes to show that you can't go by word of mouth.

A couple years later his son starts building a dirt bike track (with a bobcat) and part of the track is on the 100' strip. I went over and discussed with him that I would prefer that he not place his track there as it could place liability on me if anyone were hurt. His son repaired the 100' strip to its original state and moved his track further onto his land.

The neighbor and I get along well and nothing else has been mentioned about the property line. I did go over this year with the turning plow and disc and turn him a garden spot. He had spent 1 1/2 days with a tiller trying to till a 20x20 spot. He was very appreciative.

On another note. What type of airblast sprayer are you using. We conversed last year about sprayers when I was looking for one to use in my vegetable enterprise. Pumpkins, watermelons, cantaloups, corn, etc...

I ended up buying a Jacto J400 and really like it.

This is a stock Jacto picture. I have a Kubota tractor.

Chris

It's illegal to spray 2-4d here unless your so many miles away (I think 10) from any vineyards. People have been help liable for damages resulting from using 2-4d near the vineyards. I'm not too worried about it as there is nothing I can do to prevent it, only deal with it after.

I'm still using a 400 gallon fmc economist. I converted it over to electric controls to use with my kubota. I'm looking to replace it with a turbomist in a year or two.

 

[pacerron]

Reading this thread (and several others like it), I am always surprised by the number of people that can and do buy property without a survey.

This is not a criticism of anyone and please don't flame me, but I am surprised that (1) the local authorities allow it and (2) you are able to get title insurance on the transaction.

In my county, your property is either a legally defined lot (e.g. in a residential or commerical subdisvision) or "meets and bounds" (10+ acres). If it is "meets and bounds" nothing (legal or financial) happens without a survey. The downside is if you buy/seel/refinance, you need a survey. The upside is you(and the neighbors-via the orange painted stakes) get a survey.

For example, when purchased our property, we first had a construction loan than we converted it to a traditional morg. 6 months later. For both transactions, we needed a new survey. It was extra $$, but I have no doubts about where my property lines are.

Over the history of this country there have been many surveys. My state, Ohio, was one of the original areas for government sponsered surveys but there were 5 different surveys over different parts of the state. My area was done by the "Ohio Company" and the method used was 1 mile square sections usually sold the first time by the BLM. Settlers purchased whole sections, half sections, etc. Over the years resales were made dividing in quarter sections, and smaller. The property sections were pretty specific at first as to total acres as they were easy to figure. As time progressed more splitting and odd shaped plats with many variations of acre size developed. As a result, even with our modern methods of resurveying most of the surveys, at least in this area will say so many acres " more or less"
When you live in the country and all you have to do is worry about exactly where the property line is between you and your neighbors, unless you are erecting a fence or putting a hog barn on the edge of the property, it's time to move back to the city...
Surveys should be done at the time of sale and compared to previous surveys
that your neighbors have. They are all on file and easy to check.

 

[firefighter9208]

It's illegal to spray 2-4d here unless your so many miles away (I think 10) from any vineyards. People have been help liable for damages resulting from using 2-4d near the vineyards. I'm not too worried about it as there is nothing I can do to prevent it, only deal with it after.

I'm still using a 400 gallon fmc economist. I converted it over to electric controls to use with my kubota. I'm looking to replace it with a turbomist in a year or two.

Yeah,

A lot of the cow pasture and horse pasture owners can't understand why the local co-ops won't spray Grazone or 24d on their pastures.

We've got about 200 acres of tomatoes within 5 miles of my house.

Chris

 

[wrooster]

better ideas of how to respond

Get a old, unused Dish or DirectTV satellite antenna. Mount it on a short post just inside the property line with your neighbor. Point the antenna directly at your neighbors house. Whenever you are tired, drag a nice comfortable lawn chair out to the antenna, "plug" an old set of 1980's style headphones into the antenna, put the headphones on, and take a nap.

Wrooster

 

[rsheetz]

Ever consider starting a hog or chicken operation on that side of your property?

 

[Robert_in_NY]

Ever consider starting a hog or chicken operation on that side of your property?

No and have no plans to anytime soon. Plus the wind blows away from their property 90% of the time so it wouldn't accomplish your idea.

 

[jonyyuma]

Get a old, unused Dish or DirectTV satellite antenna. Mount it on a short post just inside the property line with your neighbor. Point the antenna directly at your neighbors house. Whenever you are tired, drag a nice comfortable lawn chair out to the antenna, "plug" an old set of 1980's style headphones into the antenna, put the headphones on, and take a nap.

Wrooster

Dude, This sounds like undercover warfare??? I certainly would hate to p--s off some of you guys on a line dispute? Did not like the idea of fruitcake blowing grass all over you... For what its worth, I have Lawn-**** next door too...Sometimes i wait until my grass has made seed, before i cut it.....But spray roundup on all dandilions.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

As far as surveying and such it isn't a huge issue. Even as unfriendly these neighbors are they have not disputed the boundary. I just wanted to ask and if we were on the same page with my drainage ideas then it still wouldn't be an issue. Of the 300 acres we own only 20 have been surveyed off and thats because the seller automatically did it without asking. We've never had a line dispute and still haven't. This is the first instance where the neighbors are unwilling to be friendly and work together. So I'm not too upset as I dont really need to survey that boundry but with how these neighbors appear to be acting I'm not sure if surveying won't actually incite a boundary dispute. But i'll deal with that when and if I need to.

 

[EE_Bota]

Exactly, nothing is gained by escalating conflict. I learned that years ago and have no intentions of trying to contact these neighbors ever again. I will survey and post the boundry and stay on my own land and take away any reason for them to come on my land since the only reason they do now is to mow part of mine. When that grass is dead there is no need to mow it. If I have enough room I will dig an open ditch but other wise I will run a tile and keep everything on my side and just continue on my happy way

Very smart man. Spend your time with good and friendly people. A great many people are good and friendly, and you have found many of them, so enjoy them, and farm your farm.

 

[rsewill]

Removing your trees because the neighbors want you too? Absurd. Unless you had an old, tall tree that might fall on one of their buildings because they (or their insurance) would have to pay for the damages to their building.