How would you repair this?

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Shield Arc

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I broke a Lenox blade for my Ellis 1800 saw:(. How would you make this repair?
 

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   / How would you repair this? #2  
Square and scarf, Silver braze Clean up anything proud.

Just the same as making up a new one.
 
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I broke a Lenox blade for my Ellis 1800 saw:(. How would you make this repair?

I would cut or grind the ends straight and reweld it using a blade welder found on some quality bandsaws, which also have grinders and annealers to complete the job. If you don't anneal it it will crack again. The welders hold them coplanar and push them together while a pulse of welding current is applied. The bulging weld has to then be ground flat and annealed.
 
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Square and scarf, Silver braze Clean up anything proud.

Just the same as making up a new one.
Oh God, I'm the world's worst solderer / brazer!:eek: It all ends up on top of my feet!:laughing:




I would cut or grind the ends straight and reweld it using a blade welder found on some quality bandsaws, which also have grinders and annealers to complete the job. If you don't anneal it it will crack again. The welders hold them coplanar and push them together while a pulse of welding current is applied. The bulging weld has to then be ground flat and annealed.
How about this?
 

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Here you go Shield Arc.

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Aren't you the one who said 'you can never have too many welding machines'?
:D

Terry
 
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WOW!:eek: That's almost as much as I paid for the saw.:laughing:
 
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Nice tig job! Did you use stainless filler rod? I've got the same saw you have and I'd encourage you to try a vari-tooth blade such as a 5-8 in a bimetal. It will eliminate a lot of vibration.
 
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Mysfyt where do you buy your blades at? I have the hardest time finding them. I just bought a dozen Lenox blades. So far I'm not impressed!:thumbdown: This blade broke about a month ago, it started cracking at the top of the blade, not at the teeth!:confused:

Yes I used ER 312 stainless steel.
 

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Have you ever checked tension on the BS blade? There are tension meters you can get for not too crazt money. Iturra has them (focused on WW applications, but tension is tension in a BS blade)... I'm just wondering if you are way over-stressing it by accident. Lennox is known for good blades. I have one of their sawzall blades and it is incredible compared to the usual Milwaukee or other stuff. But a defective batch is also a possibility.

Besides...a REAL MAN OA welds stuff like that, and doesn't leave all that ugly filler to grind away. A quick wipe with a scotchbrite pad should be all you need to get the weld flush with the blade...:D:laughing:
 
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You should get warranty on the blade. A new Ideal blade welder only runs about $250,000 and then you just need the grinder and the blade shear for a few thousand more. Should be pocket change for Shield Arc.:D Then you can buy 250' bulk coils of blade. My last job sold M.K. Morse (USA) blades and a lot of shops preferred them over Lenox. I liked the sales rep. He said they have 5 Ideal blade welders. Lenox moved production to China and I think quality suffered a bit. Wikus (Germany) are also really good blades.

Saw blades, hole saws, circular saw blades, and recip blades: The M. K. Morse Company provides professional quality metal cutting blades and power tool accessories.
 

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