howes or power service

[Soundguy]

our local tsc just started carrying howes.

anyone use that and power service and can compair the two?

 

[creekbend]

I use the Power Service from TSC. I have never used the Howes. Is the Howes used for diesel applications also?

 

[groundcover]

I have been using white Power Service for years but switched to Howes last year after gelling in tractor and chipper with off road diesel, I haven't had any more problems but have also gone to a different fuel supplier.

 

[Soundguy]

I use the Power Service from TSC. I have never used the Howes. Is the Howes used for diesel applications also?

the howes i'm talking about is specifically for diesel.

They may mate a gas addative.. but I'm not aware of it..

 

[Diamondpilot]

I am a Howse guy. I have used PS also but notice less smoke on startup with Howse. Been using it since the late 90's I guess.

I am sure you are fine with either. About as much difference as Coke and Pepsi or Valvoline and Pennzoil.

Chris

 

[BrianDT]

Howes is 100 times better than PS. PS is the walmart brand of diesel additives.

It is sold everywhere, but it is junk compared to whats out there.

 

[Soundguy]

I am a Howse guy. I have used PS also but notice less smoke on startup with Howse. Been using it since the late 90's I guess.

I am sure you are fine with either. About as much difference as Coke and Pepsi or Valvoline and Pennzoil.

Chris

i'm getting ready to do the fuel filter on the .3 and may fill the filter with howes when i slap the cover back on.. juice the injectors up a bit.

have had so much to do lately.. I've had to put off doing the fuel filter on the poor ole 7.3


got off work at dark thirty last night and had to clean the throttle body on the non idling 5.3 gm the wife drives. 1 can of choke cleaner and a dirty rag and spent pair of gloves later it is back to starting and idling fine... day before tht the well pump caught on firet at the farm.. was out till midnight replacing wire, conduit, pressure switch and electrical box

day before that had a stock tank leak.. before that.. the fridge in the house quit.. before that.. ( this could go on for a while.. )

 

[3930dave]

Soundguy - try toasting Murphy with Jamieson's Irish Whiskey !

So long as you don't overdo it, it shouldn't hurt.

Yep, gremlins in machinery seem to come in large packs ! Best luck on wrestling them all to the ground.

Rgds, D.

 

[RickB]

Howes is 100 times better than PS. PS is the walmart brand of diesel additives.

It is sold everywhere, but it is junk compared to whats out there.

My opinion as well.
Kinda like comparing WD-40 to PB Blaster or Kroil.

 

[big bubba]

My opinion as well.
Kinda like comparing WD-40 to PB Blaster or Kroil.

have used howes for years...K dealer parts guy says howes a standby for many truckers in diesel. i have not done a field test...just used howes in my diesel for years...quick starts w/o smoke beyond initial start up. but you choose... i'll stick w/howes. lots out there......

 

[Soundguy]

well.. I just fresh dieseled and juced all my trucks with howes and will see how it does.

unlike many of the diesel addatives on the market that all pretty much smell alike.. this one smells different.

non scientific.. but..

 

[Soundguy]

speaking of wd-40

anyone notice that actually have a wd-40 penetrant out now?

guess even they realized it wasn't worth bird poo for a loosener..

 

[crashz]

I saw that Soundguy! They must have swallowed hard when they started shipping the WD40 Penetrant (the old stuff used to be the mark to measure by: i.e. if it was better than WD40, it could at least be considered a penetrant)!

PS is OK, but is not much of a lubricant, has not proven to be a good dispersant (to me anyway), and will allow diesel to gel even at relatively moderate cold temps (10-20 degrees F). But just like WD40, its found everywhere, so I have some on hand.

Howes has proven to be a better lubricant, and has never left me gelled up.

 

[Soundguy]

you know.. I think I am sold on howes.

I have now put 265m on my 6.0psd sincce a fillup and howes treatment.

it's been inthe 40's last 3 morning and I've put alot of road mile sand plenty of city miles on her since the treatment.

I am noticing an idle sound difference inthe mornings when cold.

I need to monitor more and recheck fuel econ and miles at next fill up to make sure it is not a psychosomatic feeling of increased preformance since ai changed addatives.. etc.

so.. will know more in another day or 2.

if it pans out.. I may switch over to howes completely when the rest of my PS runs out. especialyl now that tsc carries it.

not many choices around here.

napa / carquest soemtimes have a store brand.. that and power service.. or seafoam that works in diesel.. but that's pretty much a cleaner.. not a lube / deicer/antigell i think.

no stanadyne.. etc..

hope howes works out.

thanks

 

[WilliamBos]

you know.. I think I am sold on howes.

I have now put 265m on my 6.0psd sincce a fillup and howes treatment.

it's been inthe 40's last 3 morning and I've put alot of road mile sand plenty of city miles on her since the treatment.

I am noticing an idle sound difference inthe mornings when cold.

I need to monitor more and recheck fuel econ and miles at next fill up to make sure it is not a psychosomatic feeling of increased preformance since ai changed addatives.. etc.

so.. will know more in another day or 2.

if it pans out.. I may switch over to howes completely when the rest of my PS runs out. especialyl now that tsc carries it.

not many choices around here.

napa / carquest soemtimes have a store brand.. that and power service.. or seafoam that works in diesel.. but that's pretty much a cleaner.. not a lube / deicer/antigell i thin
no stanadyne.. etc..

hope howes works out.

thanks

I prefer Howes or Kleen flo, wont touch PS with a 10 foot pole. The two mentioned above have proven themselves up North, so no risk down here in the South.

 

[JJZ 109]

One poster is saying Howes and another is saying Howse. Just wondered which it is as I might try it once my PS runs out.
I did see some Stanadyne yesterday at a local tractor/implement dealer but I held off because I've still got about 3 quarts of PS left in the gallon jug.

 

[WilliamBos]

One poster is saying Howes and another is saying Howse. Just wondered which it is as I might try it once my PS runs out.
I did see some Stanadyne yesterday at a local tractor/implement dealer but I held off because I've still got about 3 quarts of PS left in the gallon jug.

Howes Lubricator

 

[JJZ 109]

Howes Lubricator

Thanks Wm. I'll bookmark that one for future reference. In fact, I discovered I can get it at the local NAPA. Not stocked in store, but I reserved online. Usually our local guys get stuff in the next business day. Sometimes 2 days depending on which warehouse it's at.

 

[devildog1]

Howes is mostly what I see used @ Route 67 Truck Stop close to my home. Seems that lots of the big rig boys use it the most. They sell both PSD & Howes. I have been using PSD for quite a while although I just recently bought a bottle of Howes @ TSC, need to give it a try, PSD bottle almost empty.
DevilDog

 

[3930dave]

I'm a Stanadyne guy.

That said, I know people that have used Howes and liked it. Can't say I've ever come across anybody saying something bad about Howes.

Howes does seem to be well stocked in most of the Canadian truck stops that I've been in.

Rgds, D.