HST Transmission

yooperdave · Jan 8, 2004

Is a true power reverser option roughly the same price as the HST option?

Does Zetor, Mahindra, or New Holland offer a true power reverser?

Thanks

Yooper Dave

Tractors4u · Jan 8, 2004

I'm not sure what you mean by true power reverser? The power reverser on my Deere was less than the HST and the Kubota was also less.

yooperdave · Jan 8, 2004

I thought that the Mahindra and Zetor required the clutch to also be engaged in order to move the switch to reverse.

I also thought that John Deere only required a flip of a switch in order to promptly reverse. This is what I consider a true power reversing option.

Yooper Dave

Tractors4u · Jan 8, 2004

Gotcha, the Deere does not have to be clutched to shift. I am not sure about the Zetor though. To tell you the truth I don't remember about the Kubota 3130 I test drove either. I'm so used to clutching though, that I clutch 9 times out of 10 /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif.

AndyMA · Jan 8, 2004

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I also thought that John Deere only required a flip of a switch in order to promptly reverse. This is what I consider a true power reversing option.
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How does the Deere Power Reverser compare to the Hydraulic Power Shuttle on the New Holland TN series that allows you to flip the left hand steering post lever with one finger, never touching the clutch, at any throttle position. You go from any speed forward to an identical reverse speed with a gentle transition with the 16Fx16R trans. The New Holland trans is also available 32Fx16R or 44Fx16R.

I'm not familiar with the Deere system. I will also state that the New Holland system is great for loader operation as I suspect the Deere is.

Andy

grandad · Jan 8, 2004

Gosh, Dave, see what you started? A simple question and the transmission war erupts!

What a great thread though... this is what makes TBN such a special place. All messages on the subject and with great detail, no personal flames and something for everyone to learn. Thanks, guys!

JerryG · Jan 9, 2004

I'm so used to clutching though, that I clutch 9 times out of 10 
Ha Ha I thought that I was the only one that did that. I have just had my power shuttle for about 3 months and more times than not I forget and use the clutch. It is nice to just flip the lever when I remember. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

yooperdave · Jan 9, 2004

I get the feeling that the New Holland hydraulic power shuttle is similar to the Kubota - which should be a good thing.

My local Kubota dealer has a M6800 with a loader and hydraulic shuttle shift on the lot. He wants well over $30,000 for it. I still need to go have a test drive, or look for something a bit more affordable.

Yooper Dave

art · Jan 9, 2004

Richard, I do believe that there are problems with many things built today as well as in the past. I know that many things being sold have been misrepresented. For the people in this hilly area the hydro's are still in demand. I feel after listening to you that you might have had some prior experience with one that didn't work which is unfortunate, if you didn't then I also feel that as a moderator here on this board that it shouldn't just be someone else said. IH sold hydro's for 15 years and for us up here when the last ones were built they were gone like hot cakes. I wish as well as our older sales staff that we still had them because of there performance in the field, not in our shop. We do buy tractors from the west and having been out there having farmer friends across the west I know or feel I have a reasonable grasp of the conditions and practices of the full time farmers as well as the size of them. Roughly 70% of the compacts we sell are hydro, that means over 400 new hydro's left our yard this past year and we don't work on them. Richard for the type of farming you are doing I would not have recommended the option of a hydro to you. I wouldn't have recommended the power shift of JD either nor should a salesmen from them as being a good transmission for what it sounds most of your work or for the amount of work you have brought up here and the type.

_RaT_ · Jan 9, 2004

Jerry, I will just flip the lever when I'm not rolling, but there are times, be it on a hill or even at times in loader work that I will clutch, flip and then release the clutch gradually. More often then not it's because of the speed at which I'm doing things. I anticipate the slight delay inherent in shuttle's as the reverse/forward clutches engage. It works very well for me and makes the shuttle transmission all the better for my needs when I'm on a shuttle tractor. All the shuttles on the tractors I have driven be it Deere, NH or Kubota work nearly identical.