charlz
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After doing a fair bit of loader work with my 7100 gear I would jump on a good HST deal.
HST vs. Gear Drive
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Egon said:Clutch goes on the geared transmission not much happens either!
As long as the hub don't rip out, I can start her in gear and still walk of fthe tracks.
i can count on one hand the number of times I've seen a failed hub..
if it's a wear issue.. then you know about it.. its not like you go outside one day and the clutch is out. when you nitice it slipping.. you adjust it. and then in a few years you adjust it again.. and so on.. untill you finally use up the adjustment.. then eventually.. you repalce it.. just like any other wear media. i don't expect brakes to last a lifetime.. why would i expect a clutch to?
Besides.. i'll bet a standard clutch is cheaper than a R&R on an HST tranny!
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soundguy, it was neil messick that said that, and he repairs both of them... I tend to trust repair shops experience.
Hasn't HST been around 40 years or so already?
Hasn't HST been around 40 years or so already?
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Charlesaf3 said:
I can't see how a replacement clutch costs more than a rebuild on an HST trans.
As for 40 ys.. you think thats alot.. how long has gear tractors been around? 3x that?
The statement that HST was more durable .. when you look at how long gear has been around vs hst.. well.. it's just kind of funny. As for those 40yr old units.. I know loks of guys ditching the big red tractors as they have been putting in heavier and heavier oil into them keepiong them going till they won't go no more... Whereas ont he flip side... 40 year old gear trans might be just fine...
I'm betting on metal vs rubber any day.. at least with our technology where it is right now.. hst's got way too many places to leak and not work.. vs a gear trans that could leak AND work..
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yep, I do think 40 years is a lot. If you don't use anything invented in the last 40 years, I'll be impressed. By that metric, no modern airliner is yet proven.
I think the issue is not which costs more to repair, but which needs repair more. But I really don't know the answer to either personally, like I said I'm just going off the repair guys.
I think the issue is not which costs more to repair, but which needs repair more. But I really don't know the answer to either personally, like I said I'm just going off the repair guys.
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Yup, the clutch goes and one can always start it in gear! And then you double clutch and use the heel toe method to keep on driving??
As with clutch maintenance so would one also be expected to look at maintaining an HST. Catastopic failures can happen to either system.
If we really have to rely on how long a system has been in use to determine how well it lasts we should all have chain drives should we not??
And then you double clutch and use the heel toe method to keep on driving?? As with clutch maintenance so would one also be expected to look at maintaining an HST.
Catastopic failures can happen to either system. If we really have to rely on how long a system has been in use to determine how well it lasts we should all have chain drives should we not??
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jas67
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Whew! Did I start a hot debate here or what. I'm many people buying the size tractor I'm talking about will never wear either out. I know, that I, for one will be lucky to put over 100 hrs a year on it, probably less than 50.
Since, I haven't heard back from the seller of the B7200 HST yet, does anyone know of any good deals on as B7100/B7200/B7300 HSD/HST, etc in PA, or Northern MD?
I want an FEL, unless, I can move the KB219 from my gear-drive B7100 over.
Thanks,
jas67
Since, I haven't heard back from the seller of the B7200 HST yet, does anyone know of any good deals on as B7100/B7200/B7300 HSD/HST, etc in PA, or Northern MD?
I want an FEL, unless, I can move the KB219 from my gear-drive B7100 over.
Thanks,
jas67
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Only had two problems with the B6200 gear trans in thirteen years of ownership. One was not the tractors fault, the other was failure of the spline in the clutch disc. Went from working perfectly to not working at all. After fiddling with it for half a day I used a come-a-long to pull it up on the trailer and took it to town. Only the disc had failed but still had to split the tractor to change it. Only three years on the B7610 but still smiling. If there is a next tractor I'm +90% sure it will be a hydrostatic drive, just bigger and stronger, maybe a cab...
I purchased a geared 2004 B7510 (58 hours) with LA302 loader, 4 ft. Bush Hog Squealer, and a Woods GTC-52 tiller for less than $9,000. I would have preferred to have a new B2320 with 3-speed HST, but when the seller of the 7510 accepted my low-ish offer, I had to go with price over features. In my opinion, the best deals going at the moment are on new tractors due to low interest financing and competitive pricing. Sellers of used tractors should be willing to deal.
