Hydraulic Fitting

[kenmac]

anyone here ever seen a push fit (almost like a shark bite) hydraulic fitting ?

 

[Menagerie-Manor]

anyone here ever seen a push fit (almost like a shark bite) hydraulic fitting ?

Are you referring to a compression type which is available or an actual shark bite.

 

[kenmac]

Are you referring to a compression type which is available or an actual shark bite.

No, it's not a compression fitting. It's a male fitting on the hydraulic hose, and it pushes into the hydraulic diverter valve and locks in place.
There are little metal clips inside the female connection on the valve, that actually grab, or lock onto the male fitting (on the hose) to keep it connected inside the hydraulic diverter valve.

You just push the male fitting on the hyd hose into the hyd valve and it locks into place

 

[dstig1]

Tons of pneumatics are done that way. It is basically the industry standard for any industrial pneumatic lines and connections. Can't say I've seen it on hydraulics, but I sure haven't seen all that much in hydraulics...

 

[kenmac]

Tons of pneumatics are done that way. It is basically the industry standard for any industrial pneumatic lines and connections. Can't say I've seen it on hydraulics, but I sure haven't seen all that much in hydraulics...

If you talking about a regular air line fitting where you must pull the outer part back on the female coupling to disconnect the male fitting ? That's not the case with this type hydraulic fitting.
The male just pushes into the female and fingers grab it and holds it in place. Much like a shark bite fitting for plumbing.

To disconnect it. You must remove the safety ring, push the male into the female, then pull the male end (which is attached to the hyd hose) out.
That's how you remove a damaged hose from the valve.
The other end of the hyd hose is connected in the normal way using a JIC type fitting

 

[Egon]

Information:

https://www.princessauto.com/en/searchresults?Ntt=hydraulic%20fittings&gclid=EAIaIQobChMImf2Nw_rx8wIVwb2GCh3joQNoEAAYAiAAEgKtzvD_BwE

 

[RickB]

WEO fittings. Alo/Quicke uses a ton of them on their loaders.

 

[wdchyd]

Maybe your talking about a Gates Quick-Lok?

 

[kenmac]

WEO fittings. Alo/Quicke uses a ton of them on their loaders.

yeah, that's it !!! Thanks !!!
It's on my Quicke loader diverter valve .. No one I have talked with has never seen one. Now I know the name or what it's called I may be able to buy some for when ever I need a hose made.


I broke a hose and no hyd shop I went to had ever heard of or seen that fitting.

 

[RickB]

yeah, that's it !!! Thanks !!!
It's on my Quicke loader diverter valve .. No one I have talked with has never seen one. Now I know the name or what it's called I may be able to buy some for when ever I need a hose made.


I broke a hose and no hyd shop I went to had ever heard of or seen that fitting.

New Holland and Quicke sell adapters with a male WEO fitting on one end and male JIC on the other. I used to stock them so we could make up replacement hoses with JIC fittings and use the adapters. Far better than ordering complete OEM hoses and being down until they arrive. Note there are at least two sizes of WEO fittings that ALO uses.
A search turned up this example.

14-727-1212 CEJN Nipple Adapter, 3/4” WEO x ½” Male JIC 37° (Thread Size: 3/4”-16 UNF)

Part #14-727-1212 CEJN Nipple Adapter, 3/4” WEO x ½” Male JIC 37° (Thread Size: 3/4”-16 UNF)

www.gghyd.com

 

[kenmac]

thank you for that info.
This pic shows two with red rings and one with a black ring. Do you know if the two with red rings different sizes ?
I'm thinking mine is the smaller one with the red ring around it. Looks more like 1/4 but it could be 1/2''.

I did find a number for ALO and called. The person I spoke with said nothing about having, or being able to install an adapter like this, but did say they had the push in type connectors they could sell me. but I needed my loader mod number to to look at a diagram know what size fitting I need.

I was lucky enough to have a shop to splice the bad hose to get me going but I need to keep some adapters like these

 

[RickB]

When I was a parts manager in NY at a New Holland / Quicke dealer I was able to order the adapters from NH and through Bush Hog who distributes Quicke parts in the US. If need be I can reach out to the guy I used to work with and get part numbers. I don't recall if the ring colors are an indication of size. I've been here in NC over 4 years now.

Edit: dimensional info and another link with more info.

https://www.cejn.com/globalassets/documents/brochures/weo-plug-in/weo-en_us.pdf

 

[kenmac]

Thanks. I was just going by the pic showing two reds and one black. Thinking there may be three different sizes.

Again , thanks for the help with this. I'll call this place Monday and try to get a couple of these on the way.
ALO said they could sell and ship me one of the fittings, but I would rather have one of these adapters.

What's funny is, when I called the McCormick dealer and spoke with the parts guy, he had no idea what I was trying to tell him on the phone. Take it off and drive 30 miles up here and let me see it. I may have to order the hose assy from McCormick... No thanks ... LOL
I'm guessing no one goes to them with a hose issue, but I have no idea where they go to get one of these fittings, or adapters.

 

[kenmac]

New Holland and Quicke sell adapters with a male WEO fitting on one end and male JIC on the other. I used to stock them so we could make up replacement hoses with JIC fittings and use the adapters. Far better than ordering complete OEM hoses and being down until they arrive. Note there are at least two sizes of WEO fittings that ALO uses.
A search turned up this example.

14-727-1212 CEJN Nipple Adapter, 3/4” WEO x ½” Male JIC 37° (Thread Size: 3/4”-16 UNF)

Part #14-727-1212 CEJN Nipple Adapter, 3/4” WEO x ½” Male JIC 37° (Thread Size: 3/4”-16 UNF)

www.gghyd.com

Thanks for the info on these. Sad part is, they require $175.00 order to be able to order. LOL
I only needed a couple . The search continues !

 

[RickB]

If you can find a parts guy at a Quicke, New Holland or CaseIH dealer that is on top of his game and stocks them or is smart enough to get part numbers they can stock order them by the piece. AGCO should list them too, but I don't know that for certain. I do know Quicke is an OEM supplier to AGCO (Massey).

 

[kenmac]

thanks. I tried the dealer when I blew the hose. I called and the parts guy said he didn't know what I was talking about.
I found other suppliers for the fittings, but most are in other countries Canada, etc,.

Next time I'm close to the dealer I'm going to stop by and take him out to one of their tractors on the lot and show him.
Parts guy did say If I knew which hose it was, he could order the complete hose assy., but I really want something I can have made up local

I got the hose repaired, and with your help, I know what I'm dealing with.

 

[RickB]

Up in NY we found the adapters to be a great help at the dealership level. Good luck in your search.