hydraulic hoses

[Wayne County Hose]

Well he pays to be here.

What's your point?

 

[blueriver]

What's your point?

Simple ... its an open public forum and everyone is welcome especially advertisers ... TBN loves the revenue.

 

[teg]

Simple ... its an open public forum and everyone is welcome especially advertisers ... TBN loves the revenue.

...but if he is giving "bad" information. Even if he is paying, That is not a good thing. Correct me if I'm wrong...

 

[wdchyd]

the reason i ask i am curious if the farmer would be interested in purchasing bulk coil of hydraulic hose and fittings and then when a hose blows cut the hose to length and bring the right fittings to anybody locally that has a crimper that can crimp up a hose for you. it would save the customer a lot of money

I don't know if he's giving BAD information, but is it usefull........:confused3:

I certainly understand someone that's wanting to save money, lord knows we all do......but anyone that has spent the $$$$$ for hose/fitting materials has a way to put them together (or should).......

Let's not forget it's not just putting a crimp on the hose that gets the job done.....it has to fit on the machine too.....so that means someone has to have to inventory of fittings to be ready PDQ to fullfill that need......

Would a repair shop/parts store with a major investment want to just crimp ends on.....he assumes the responsibility of those ends to hold.......he'll have to get proper crimp specs from the hose/fitting manufacturer and adjust is machine accordingly (if he has the right dies).......besides the liability, the aggravation if it blows off ruins his reputation anyway......the hose guy is not just crimping, he's fabricating a "Factory Spec Hose"......

When's the last time any of you guys went to a restauant and brought your own steak/potatoes/beer........"Aw Just throw it on Medium Rare".......you either let them make dinner for you or stay home and cook it yourself.....

Getting back to the OP selling someone a reel of hose and a few boxes of fittings sounds like a great sales pitch but a HUGE problem when it's a broken down machine/tractor.......It's still dead.......

 

[AKKAMAAN]

I don't know if he's giving BAD information, but is it usefull........:confused3:

I certainly understand someone that's wanting to save money, lord knows we all do......but anyone that has spent the $$$$$ for hose/fitting materials has a way to put them together (or should).......

Let's not forget it's not just putting a crimp on the hose that gets the job done.....it has to fit on the machine too.....so that means someone has to have to inventory of fittings to be ready PDQ to fullfill that need......

Would a repair shop/parts store with a major investment want to just crimp ends on.....he assumes the responsibility of those ends to hold.......he'll have to get proper crimp specs from the hose/fitting manufacturer and adjust is machine accordingly (if he has the right dies).......besides the liability, the aggravation if it blows off ruins his reputation anyway......the hose guy is not just crimping, he's fabricating a "Factory Spec Hose"......

When's the last time any of you guys went to a restauant and brought your own steak/potatoes/beer........"Aw Just throw it on Medium Rare".......you either let them make dinner for you or stay home and cook it yourself.....

Getting back to the OP selling someone a reel of hose and a few boxes of fittings sounds like a great sales pitch but a HUGE problem when it's a broken down machine/tractor.......It's still dead.......

Well said Bill!
Some sales people are a special breed....they are good at learning numbers in a catalog.....hydraulic hose is a little different than "vacuum hose"...
I went to auto dealer 4 years ago....a very nice sales guy showed me the car...very knowledgeable about all the numbers....2 month later I went to the flooring store to buy hardwood floor....a young salesman took well care of me....very knowledgeable about all the numbers etc.....it was the same guy that a talked to at the auto dealer ship.....I totally lost trust to the guy....

 

[blueriver]

...but if he is giving "bad" information. Even if he is paying, That is not a good thing. Correct me if I'm wrong...

I can not correct you ....Bad info is never a good thing. Still remains, until TBN puts the brakes on him ... well he is entitled to post.

 

[wdchyd]

I can not correct you ....Bad info is never a good thing. Still remains, until TBN puts the brakes on him ... well he is entitled to post.

Good Point.....He's entitled to post even if he wasn't a site supporter..:thumbsup:

 

[Wayne County Hose]

Simple ... its an open public forum and everyone is welcome especially advertisers ... TBN loves the revenue.

Just because someone pays does not give them the right to post incorrect information.

Edit that. He has the right to post anything he likes. I also have the right to point out his inaccuracies.

 

[blueriver]

Just because someone pays does not give them the right to post incorrect information.

Edit that. He has the right to post anything he likes. I also have the right to point out his inaccuracies.

Absoultly ... and alot of times thats what makes a post so darn interesting ... one guy says this, another says this and as readers we follow along and watch to find out the true outcome.

 

[AKKAMAAN]

Absoultly ... and alot of times thats what makes a post so darn interesting ... one guy says this, another says this and as readers we follow along and watch to find out the true outcome.

before we even get close to "true outcome", it can be quite a long thread sometimes....

At the end of the day, there is a lot said, but not a lot is "backed up" as facts, and even more important for each one here....the verifications and acceptances of what is "true outcome"....

Most is just opinions, point of views, perspectives, stand points, IMO's, on the other hand's, each way's, more or less's, thought's, believe's, wonder's, as far as I know's, have no idea's, :thumbsup:'s, 's, :laughing:'s, 's, etc etc....

Anyway, UnitedHose sent the vacuum guy to sell online hose, he started with

Hi Evefryone

and kept on with

was just wondering how many hydraulic hoses would someone need to replace in a given year?

...which probably came from the executive room upstairs....
Now he is stuck and have now tech support yet...

Also, since polls are not allowed here at TBN, he kinda lost his only reasonable tool to find out

i was just wondering if there is much usage of hydraulic hose for any given farm

Some times a poll can help to find out the "true outcome"......

 

[nrrd]

I don't believe a small to medium size operation can justify the inventory investment in reels of hose and a BUNCH of fittings( and probably still not the right one). Most of my farm machinery uses either 1/4, 3/8, or 1/2 inch hose.
I have invested in having a 6ft, 12ft, and 18ft hose made in each of the three diameters with female #8 jic ends on each hose. I then purchased about $100 in various adapters. So far, I've used these spare hoses at least
6 times (on a weekend while baling, mowing hay, or bush hogging) to keep me going until I had the time to get the proper replacement hose made up.
Twice, I did not have the proper adapter needed and as a result was "down" until Monday. It's really like having a spare belt for the round baler.

 

[economy]

the reason i ask i am curious if the farmer would be interested in purchasing bulk coil of hydraulic hose and fittings and then when a hose blows cut the hose to length and bring the right fittings to anybody locally that has a crimper that can crimp up a hose for you. it would save the customer a lot of money


i have seen bulk hydraulic hose and fittings on an online website that sells hose and fittings this way and i was wondering would farmers buy hose this way.

for example princess auto has a chain of stores in canada and they sell bulk hydraulic hose and i was wondering who they sell it to

i was just wondering if there is much usage of hydraulic hose for any given farm

A better solution is to purchase adapter fittings that wil couple to NPT hoses
which can be purchased at reasonable prices at farm supply stores. I have
found a sorce for these on the web, but cannot remember their their name
(CRS disease).

 

[Rocwin]

I think there is a happy medium that can be reached between stocking reels and lots of fittings and having to buy them as you need them. Many of our suppliers will sell hose in coil prices (50' or 100'), much cheaper than by the foot and only a bit more than by the reel.
Hose ends and adapters are a bit tough and it depends on how much and what type of equipment you are using. If the equipment uses all JIC then you can get away with a minimal investment, but if you start to head into mixtures of BSP, metric, or NPT and Oring boss the variety, cost and space can be overwhelming.

I don't think any hydraulic shop resells that cheap princess auto hose, you can get unnamed "Made in China" hose anywhere for less money if you buy the by the reel. Any hydraulic shop worth going to is going to be representing a line/brand of hose.

 

[wdchyd]

I think there is a happy medium that can be reached between stocking reels and lots of fittings and having to buy them as you need them. Many of our suppliers will sell hose in coil prices (50' or 100'), much cheaper than by the foot and only a bit more than by the reel.
Hose ends and adapters are a bit tough and it depends on how much and what type of equipment you are using. If the equipment uses all JIC then you can get away with a minimal investment, but if you start to head into mixtures of BSP, metric, or NPT and Oring boss the variety, cost and space can be overwhelming.

I don't think any hydraulic shop resells that cheap princess auto hose, you can get unnamed "Made in China" hose anywhere for less money if you buy the by the reel. Any hydraulic shop worth going to is going to be representing a line/brand of hose.

x 2.........:thumbsup:

 

[economy]

I found a link for JIC to NPT adapters.
Hydraulic Hose Adapters: Metric, Brass, Stainless Steel from Adapters Inc. - 6506 Female Pipe x Female JIC Swivel - Straight

6506-06-08 (3/8" OD) Female JIC to Female NPT
List Price: $7.54
Internet Price: $3.17

On my Kubota with a Long 4 way loader bucket, I just purchased some JIC to
NPT adapters and 3/8" hose with NPT ends from Agri Supply. This was about
half (or less) than the price of a hose with crimped JIC ends. Now if the
hose is damaged, I just have to replace the hose, since the adapters will
still be OK:tractor:

 

[unitedhose]

We just got an order from a farmer for 200 hoses. all as stock for replacements when a hose blows on his implements.
all 1/2 inch hoses 1/2npt ends.

i guess you guys that don't use many hoses are not real farmers. especially around Wayne county, PA

 

[AKKAMAAN]

We just got an order from a farmer for 200 hoses. all as stock for replacements when a hose blows on his implements.
all 1/2 inch hoses 1/2npt ends.

i guess you guys that don't use many hoses are not real farmers. especially around Wayne county, PA

A fairly big hose making shop told me once, that you get the best out of a hose with crimped fittings the quicker you start using it...a hose with crimped fittings "last" longer if put into duty immediately...he did not recommend stocking crimped hoses over a longer time, even if that would increase his sale and revenue....
If that is the case, this farmer is always going to blow hoses....:confused2:

I can see that rubber ages and cracks over time....oil inside should have a preservative effect on inside liner, and prevent rubber from cracking/"oxidizing"....like rubber in tires....

What is your take on that statement?? Is there any validity into it?

 

[wdchyd]

i guess you guys that don't use many hoses are not real farmers. especially around Wayne county, PA

Is this a slam on our buddy WCH .......:confused2:........

Making up tons of 1/2 hose should cover all his needs.......they do only make 1/2 hoses with 1/2 npt for hydraulics right..??.....:anyone:

 

[moored4]

Got another......

How long is a piece of string..??

Long enough to reach from one end to the other!!

:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:

 

[wdchyd]

Twice the distance from the center to the end..!!

Long enough to reach from one end to the other!!

:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:

:laughing::laughing::laughing:........How about "How long is 200 hoses".....:laughing::laughing:...........Long enough..??