Hydraulics for quick attach Grapple

[J_J]

If your single spool grapple valve has PB, then add the single spool valve after the FEL valve.

 

[Mangumck]

Thanks JJ. I m going to get single spool valve tomorrow and will make sure it has a PB.
My current FEL valve controller has a PB hose, a pressure hose and a return hose connected to it.
What is the proper way of connecting the hoses fin the FEL valve to the grapple single spool valve?
Any certain valve you recommend getting?

 

[J_J]

For a simple installation, some people use this solenoid valve with a DO3 subplate.

Surplus Center - 12 VDC 10 GPM OC DA SOLENOID VALVE

It is certified for high pressure and can be mounted after the FEL PB

Requires a switch on the FEL handle.

Diverter type valve, diverts the bucket tilt flow into grapple flow.

http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?item=9-7852&catname=hydraulic

If you want a lever type valve, then something like this.

Surplus Center - 1 SPOOL 8 GPM PRINCE MB11B5C1 DA VALVE

Surplus Center - 1 SPOOL 14 GPM PRINCE WVS11B5C1 DA VALVE

Hydraulics:
Type: open center
Valves: 0 or 1
Total flow: 8.29 gpm [31.4 lpm]
Steering flow: 4.8 gpm [18.2 lpm]

 

[Mangumck]

I am going to get the Spool you recommended JJ, 1 spool 14 GPM Prince WVS11B5C1 DA Valve. I assume i will also need the PB / Closed center sleeve WVS Valve to go with it.

From what i gather this is how i will connect the two.
1. move the hose that is connected to the PB port on FEL controller to the PB port on the new single spool controller.
2. connect a new hose to the PB port on the FEL controller and then connect it to the IN /ressure port of the new single spool controller.
3. connect a new hose to the out/return port on new single controller and T it into the return hose off the FEL controller.

Does this sound correct or am I way off?

 

[J_J]

Remove the PB hose from the FEL PB port.

Connect a PB hose from the FEL PB to the IN port of the new valve.

Connect the hose removed first to the PB adapter on the new valve.

Run a hose from the OUT port to a tank/return line.

Your flow path should be like this, pump, FEL valve, new valve, 3pt , tank.

 

[Mangumck]

I got the Prince Wolverine #WVS11B5C1 DA Valve and the PB Sleeve to go with it.
The valve has 2 work ports, a Inlet port, and a side and top outlet port.
Question is which port do I put the PB sleeve in?
I know I run a hose from the PB port of the old valve to the inlet port of the new valve
which outlet valve on the new valve do i connect the hose for the 3pt lift to?

I have attached a drawing for the FEL valve and the new valve i am adding.
any help on connecting correctly would be greatly appreciated.

View attachment 324549

 

[J_J]

I am getting invalid attachment with your link.

However, the PB port should be stamped.

I can't see the bottom of the valve .

Can you show picture?

The valve should have OUT by one port and PB by one port.

The OUT port is on the bottom and the PB adapter goes in the top port by the bottom.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...=-5s5gtPW8mX_UsKzlZaYiA&bvm=bv.48293060,d.eWU

Top half of page 7.

 

[J_J]

Using that valve with out the PB adapter, the top port would be the OUT port, and a plug is in the bottom port.

So when you install the PB adapter in the top port, the bottom port becomes the OUT port.

The port that the PB adapter fits in should have a seat inside the port where the PB adapter seals off the out port.

To test out the valve before you run hyd through it, use air in the IN port, and air should come out the PB port only with lever in neutral.

If you push the lever fully, air should come out one of the work ports.

 

[Mangumck]

Thanks JJ I think I understand it now.

Put the PB Adapter in top out port and connect hose from that port to my 3pt lift
run hose from bottom out port to return line tee
Run hose from PB port on FEL valve to In port on new valve.

 

[Mangumck]

JJ I receibved the PB sleeve for the valve. The PB sleeve will only fit in the bottom Out port that is currently plugged.
So i will assume that tthe top port now becomes the out port anf the bottom port is the PB port where i connect the hose that will run my 3pt lift.