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#11  
3 point hitch is slow also.
Loader works the same whether tph is up or down. It might be a little tiny bit better when down..............
No noise that I can hear, other than a little difference in noise when I move the power steering.

The power steering is works properly, regardless of weather, cold, etc.
 
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#12  
And is which is the diverter? Pic #1 or #2.

Pic #2.jpg
 
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Since the power steering is functioning and there isn't any unusual sounds like cavitation from the pump(Clogged filter) we can assume that we have sufficient pressure and flow.

View attachment POWER STEERING TUBES%2C 1910.pdf
Your hydraulic system uses a unloader valve (Part #1) to prioritize the flow into two separate systems. The first system is the steering and the second is every thing else or in your case the FEL and the TPH.

Your first test is to lift an object over 200Lbs with the FEL
If you can lift a heavy object proceed to Blockage.
If you cannot lift a heavy object proceed to Unloader valve and pressure relief.

Blockage:
If you can lift this object you have sufficient pressure but reduced flow.
Connect two pressure gages in line with the flow in front(pressure side) and behind(relief side) the FEL valve. While lifting the arms of the loader without a load there should be less than 250psi on the pressure side and less than 100Lbs on the relief side.

If your pressure is high on the relief side there is a blockage between the loader valve and the TPH valve or in the THP valve.

Unloader valve and pressure relief:
If you cannot lift the heavy object you have reduced pressure and flow.
1. Connect a flow gage to the steering relief port (Part #10). While lifting the arms of the FEL without a load there shouldn't be any oil flow on the steering relief.

If oil flows from the steering relief port while lifting the FEL your unloader valve is not operating correctly. Most likely a broken spring in the unloader valve.

If oil isn't flowing from the steering relief port while lifting the FEL then your pressure relief valve is not working.

Mike
 
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#15  
Ok. thanks. I'm going to begin troubleshooting with the advice above. I don't have a flow gauge. I might as well get one...I have just about everything else, and it be something else for my wife to bit**, err, I mean, congratulate me.

Is there anything I need to look for specifically when looking at a gauge? Make or Model suggestions?
 
   / Hydraulics SLOOOWWWW #16  
Headland Flowmeter
These flowmeters can only be used on the relief or tank side.

Your pressure gages should be 3000 Psi or over and glycerin filled.
You cannot use standard pipe fittings, they must be steel hydraulic fittings.
Never block the flow of oil.

Mike
 
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#17  
So I did some more troubleshooting, but haven't purchased the flow meter yet. Maybe these pieces of info might help with diagnostics.
When I raise the tph or loader, if I turn the powersteering, the hydraulics improve ever so slightly.
If I rev the engine, I also get a little bit of an improvement / speed of hydraulics, but just for a second, then back to normal (slow).
The fluid is Travelers Premium hydraulic/trans axle fluid.

Thoughts?
 
   / Hydraulics SLOOOWWWW #18  
One time that happened on my 1710, I had to loosen the loader valve mounting bolts and tweak the valve a bit.
 
   / Hydraulics SLOOOWWWW #19  
You haven’t given us any thing definitive.

Can you lift a heavy object with the loader?

What I’m calling an unloader valve is more commonly known as a priority valve.

Mike
 
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#20  
Yes, I can lift heavy objects, just very slowly


So I did some more troubleshooting, but haven't purchased the flow meter yet. Maybe these pieces of info might help with diagnostics.
When I raise the tph or loader, if I turn the powersteering, the hydraulics improve ever so slightly.
If I rev the engine, I also get a little bit of an improvement / speed of hydraulics, but just for a second, then back to normal (slow).
The fluid is Travelers Premium hydraulic/trans axle fluid.
.
 

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