JerryG
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DocsKnotInn,
Well said...
Well said...
Hydro vs Standard Shift?
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Docsknotinn
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The value is in Freedom of choice and the ability to communicate intelligent articulate information in a pleasant non confrontational atmosphere. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
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Yes, I agree, but having convictions should not be confused with being confrontational. Having the ability to communicate intelligent articulate information in a pleasant non confrontational atmosphere is important. It's the articulate and accurate part that I felt was missing from JerryG's post, therefore, my questioning of it. If you felt that to be confrontational or perhaps less then articulate information, then you have every right. If you felt I was somehow infringing on the persons Freedom of choice, perhaps you did not read the posts. Please cut and paste from my post where this was mentioned or even implied, I will gladly apologize. Rat /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
gordon
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Ok all things aside, I used to be against a hst. So for those of you who don't know the story here goes a quick version.
My old L3750 was broke and I had jobs to do so the dealer gave me a loaner tractor. It was a B20 yes much smaller but a real workhorse. I put over a 100 hours on that tractor before mine was fixed. It took quite a few hours to realize that I had to lift up on the pedal to get more power with the hst, just the oppsite of my L which had a shuttle shift and a foot throttle.
Having the chance to run that tractor changed my mind about an hst. Just showing how narrowminded I could be. At times I think we all are!
I wonder how many hours alot of the outspoken people against the hst actually have driving one?
Just a thought about posting facts. The above post is all FACT it really happened it a small town of DE.
Gordon
My old L3750 was broke and I had jobs to do so the dealer gave me a loaner tractor. It was a B20 yes much smaller but a real workhorse. I put over a 100 hours on that tractor before mine was fixed. It took quite a few hours to realize that I had to lift up on the pedal to get more power with the hst, just the oppsite of my L which had a shuttle shift and a foot throttle.
Having the chance to run that tractor changed my mind about an hst. Just showing how narrowminded I could be. At times I think we all are!
I wonder how many hours alot of the outspoken people against the hst actually have driving one?
Just a thought about posting facts. The above post is all FACT it really happened it a small town of DE.
Gordon
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As an earlier post mentioned, "Well Said" /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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<font color="blue"> The reason it gives the rpm at 2000 up is because of it being a gas engine. They have to have higher rpms to have power. Now a diesel gets its power at a much lower rpm, so you could run it at a lower rpm and still have the power. </font>
I just went out and looked at the tach on the old beast and 540 PTO RPMs is 2150 engine RPMs. That's not too much different from the diesels, is it? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
I just went out and looked at the tach on the old beast and 540 PTO RPMs is 2150 engine RPMs. That's not too much different from the diesels, is it? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Docsknotinn
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Yes I agree. I am not saying anything about any one person/individual. I am just saying we all get sort of lulled in to thinking our own thought process is always right. It is I think important to each of us as individuals to feel that we have made the right choice. Then you try something new or different and you realize the difference is really not that great. I have A hst, I dont think it is the be all end all. It is after all just a transmission. By the way My Pto shaft snapped like a pretzel at 10 hours. lol . I really just feel in the end it comes down to each of our needs. Looseing 2 or 3 hp to many of us is nonconsequential. To others it is a difference. I guess I just get bewildered when I see it start to turn in to a right Vs Wrong debate. Kindest Regards, Dave
yellowsocks93
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Hi, I would like to say that the big combines are hydrostatic and when I drive them you can hear the transmission. Someone asked if any large equipment was HST. As I have said before I prefer gears but HSTs do have there place in some equipment. Remember the old gear combines 4400 for example a new gear drive combine would not stand a chance to a HST. Farmers need the flexability of infinate speeds for harvesting and an HST provides this. But for me gears are the best. Proof: JD model 620 and so on with other old models.
Nick
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glennmac
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For the jobs specified by the newcomer who started this thread, my purely personal opinion is that there is only one correct opinion: hydro.
My opinion would be the same whether he was a weekend digger or a full time contractor. In my area, contractors who buy CUT size tractors buy hydro (and usually Kubota). It's because hydro is so much easier for back-and-forth tasks.
I am on my third hydro tractor and I have never run any of them at max rpm except when driving on the road. When mowing, I go at pto speed. For just about everything else, I will lower than pto speed.
I have heard that hydro is not on big ag tractors because it would heat up too much under the heavy loads caused by the constant dirt-engaging tasks that ag tractors usually perform.
My opinion would be the same whether he was a weekend digger or a full time contractor. In my area, contractors who buy CUT size tractors buy hydro (and usually Kubota). It's because hydro is so much easier for back-and-forth tasks.
I am on my third hydro tractor and I have never run any of them at max rpm except when driving on the road. When mowing, I go at pto speed. For just about everything else, I will lower than pto speed.
I have heard that hydro is not on big ag tractors because it would heat up too much under the heavy loads caused by the constant dirt-engaging tasks that ag tractors usually perform.
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