Hypothetical Doomsday Scenario

   / Hypothetical Doomsday Scenario #171  
Well, one of my brother's rides a Yamaha and voted for McCain. My other brother owns two copies of one of Glen Beck's books, I'll do a two-fer-one swap on brothers with you :laughing:

Seriously though, inordinate prepping for events that are extremely unlikely to occur is obsessive behavior, although for some it may be more like a hobby, and hobbies can get expensive too.



Surely some tribe of primitives off in the middle of nowhere has a much better chance of surviving than any prepper and they don't have to prepare, it's what they do everyday. If survival is the ultimate goal, and disaster is a given, then clearly your best chance is to buy your one-way tickets to nowhere and leave today. Why mess with stuffing food under your bed?

Staying in civilization among the most dangerous critters on earth -- humans -- is like trying to have your cake and eat it too.

I agree with pretty much all of what you posted...except...anything can happen anytime but that is part of life...If you spend all your time consumed with worry and prepping for some disaster then life is not worth much...on the other hand having 6 months supplies on hand is not a bad idea...but I think prudent for any eventuality ....at the end of 6 mos. we will either be in complete chaos or things will have fallen into some form of normality...Just my guess....
 
   / Hypothetical Doomsday Scenario #172  
RoyJackson said:
Yeah...most of 'em probably didn't notice...

Yeah 400 million don't have power at all.
 
   / Hypothetical Doomsday Scenario #173  
I agree with pretty much all of what you posted...except...anything can happen anytime but that is part of life...If you spend all your time consumed with worry and prepping for some disaster then life is not worth much...on the other hand having 6 months supplies on hand is not a bad idea...but I think prudent for any eventuality ....at the end of 6 mos. we will either be in complete chaos or things will have fallen into some form of normality...Just my guess....

You and me share the same idea there a reasonable supply of everything to get by is always a good thing for peace of mind if nothing else the 6 months is where we are at also food wise, I have a lifetime of ammo and reloading supply's. :thumbsup:

Dave makes good points also I am with him as well it can get obsessive and expensive if not simply common sense! :thumbsup:

I dont personally have 6 mo of diesel I have a 300 gal tank but haven't sat down and figured out how long I could make that work. I could figure that one out but hopefully never need more than a couple weeks which I know we could handle ok. :thumbsup:

I live in tornado alley and some years it is bad (this year its not thank goodness) but we also have bad ice. Its not doomsday but some folks would feel like it was if the power etc went out for 2-3 weeks and they weren't preped for that.

We may have 6" rain and sub-zero the next day and rain again and power lines give up and I have a pto generator as long as the diesel holds out.
 
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   / Hypothetical Doomsday Scenario #174  
I agree with pretty much all of what you posted...except...anything can happen anytime but that is part of life...If you spend all your time consumed with worry and prepping for some disaster then life is not worth much...on the other hand having 6 months supplies on hand is not a bad idea...but I think prudent for any eventuality ....at the end of 6 mos. we will either be in complete chaos or things will have fallen into some form of normality...Just my guess....

I wouldn't call having basic supplies for 6-12 months on hand an obsession. That sounds prudent. I was playing Devil's Advocate a bit to show that extreme prepping is about more than just survival, because it isn't the best way to ensure your survival.
 
   / Hypothetical Doomsday Scenario #175  
I wouldn't call having basic supplies for 6-12 months on hand an obsession. That sounds prudent. I was playing Devil's Advocate a bit to show that extreme prepping is about more than just survival, because it isn't the best way to ensure your survival.

I thing it is good that some people be prepared. It is not for everybody of course. I wish we had more supplies. My wife thinks 3 days is enough.
 
   / Hypothetical Doomsday Scenario #176  
I always remember the story about the grasshopper and the ant. I believe it's a good idea to put back during good times for possible bad times. I haven't added it all up to see how long it would last, but I think we could go 6 months OK. Got a lot of dried beans and lots of canned stuff. Also have some ammo.

I'm not expecting anything but you never know.

Btw, could that button be adjusted so it would only take out some things, like the cell phone of the #$@&%$ driving in front of me?
 
   / Hypothetical Doomsday Scenario #177  
I thing it is good that some people be prepared. It is not for everybody of course. I wish we had more supplies. My wife thinks 3 days is enough.

A LOT depends on what you are talking about for "supplies". I've one son that would have multiplied the number of days by 3 and stock up on frozen pizzas. (Let's see - 180 days, 540 pizzas and a toothbrush.) But he changed his ways and now it would be 540 "Lean Cuisines".

I tend to focus on a freezer full of turkeys, fish and meat plus lots of canned vegetables and grains. Always attempting to "rotate" them so I'm using something often bought months ago.

Others think of "supplies" as boxed MRE's or the equivalent, and once put away never use the supplies.

Also once you get in the "habit" and set aside storage room for the food it's easier to buy in bulk at low prices. Except for this year, because we are moving, I used to buy about a dozen turkeys at Thanksgiving at 70 cents or less a pound and they would last a year. We'd buy a case or three of canned vegetables when the coupons and sales indicated it was time. But it does take storage space, especially the toilet paper.
 
   / Hypothetical Doomsday Scenario #178  
We had a small mom and pop military surplus store here and I traded out work on his vehicles for mre's and I bought a bunch also @ $15-20 a case. I ended up with 50 cases of mid 90's dates with heaters and several cases of bread that is excellent also.

Even after 10+ years past the expiration dates the cheese and chocolates are messed up the food value is still there the ham slice is my favorite and cheesy potatoes and ham second they are perfect condition. I think I still have around 45 cases give or take for 2 of us to live on. yumm
 
   / Hypothetical Doomsday Scenario #179  
The more technologically advanced a Nation is would determine how long the residents would survive in a scenario like being discussed. The US is listed as being one of the most technologically nations so it therefore would not take long for us to destroy our selves.

The more primitive technologically a nation is the longer it would survive. A nation or country without electricity, sewer services, water services, mass transportation, buses, trains and airlines, highways, hospitals, schools, supermarkets and other suppliers of food sources, etc could take a hit like being discussed and continue on with normal day to day activities because they were not dependent on external support for their life style.

A minor power outage in the US causes residents to start looting and destroying. A major catastrophic event would unleash the animals amongst us and I am afraid the horrific impact on humanity would be at a minimum devastating.

Think back a few years and recall the damage done after the fact in cities struck by a hurricane and what efforts were needed to restore safety for residents.

How many remember or know about the night the US Government turned off the lights in Hawaii. In a nuclear test in 1962, a 1.4 megaton device detonated 400km (250 miles) above the Pacific Ocean knocked out streetlights, set off burglar alarms and damaged the phone system in Hawaii 1,500km away. If the high-altitude test had been carried out 50º further north instead of close to the equator, the electromagnetic pulse would have done four to five times more electrical damage. A similar test by the Soviet Union knocked out power lines in Kazakhstan and set a power station on fire.

During the Cold War, each side was painfully aware of how vulnerable its electronic defense and communications systems were to an EMP attack by the other. Both took all the precautions they could.

Most of the damage done by a nuclear EMP is caused by the so-called E1 pulse—the first of a high-altitude nuclear explosion's three electromagnetic components. The E1 pulse is caused by gamma rays from the blast knocking electrons out of atoms in the rarefied upper atmosphere. These then travel downward at close to the speed of light, creating a large vertical current of electricity in the upper atmosphere. This sudden and intense current interacts with the Earth's magnetic field to produce a brief, but extremely large, pulse of electromagnetic energy capable of affecting a wide area on the ground.

The E1 pulse does its damage by injecting huge voltage spikes into electronic circuits, causing the various components to exceed their breakdown voltage—the point at which insulated parts become conductors and melt as they are shorted out. Because an E1 pulse rises to its peak so rapidly, it can destroy computers and communications gear before their normal lightning-protection switches have time to flip.

These days, the idea of detonating a nuclear EMP weapon to disable the radar defenses of some rogue dictatorship is politically unthinkable.

Defense laboratories have therefore turned their attention instead to producing large electromagnetic pulses by conventional explosives and other means.

One such weapon uses a small charge of explosive to ram an armature down the axis of a current-carrying coil, squeezing its magnetic field so violently in the process that it emits a powerful burst of electromagnetic energy over distances of several hundred meters.

Another type employs a Marx generator (a machine used for simulating lightning strikes) to dump a large electrical charge stored in a bank of capacitors into a specially shaped antenna.

American defense forces have converted a number of cruise missiles to function as non-nuclear EMP generators. Apparently, cars parked up to 300 meters away have had their alternators, ignition coils and engine controls disabled this way. Such e-weapons are said to have been used in Kosovo, the Persian Gulf and Afghanistan.

Intriguingly, a pair of such devices has recently broken cover. The Counter-Electronics High-Power Microwave Advanced Missile Project (CHAMP) is an unmanned aircraft fitted with a microwave pulse generator—presumably for disrupting enemy communications. The Pentagon has also announced that it is deploying an electromagnetic weapon, believed to be called Max Power, for detonating roadside bombs and disabling enemy vehicles. Both CHAMP and Max Power mimic the electromagnetic pulse of a nuclear explosion—albeit over a narrowly focused area and without the geomagnetic effect.

So in all likelihood the “Doomsday Scenario” button already exists. We can only hope that some nut does not get access.
 
   / Hypothetical Doomsday Scenario #180  
I agree there is probably quite a few buttons its my belief also. I am almost 100% sure we detonated EMP bombs over Iraq could be mistaken but I believe thats what I read about. You probably know what I am talking about better than I do?

Its definitely something a person can prepare for but it takes metal containers for all your electronic stuff at least that is the general consensus whether it really works I have no idea.
 

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