I fell into a hole.

[LBrown59]

The hole musta got a lot bigger,maybe he'll climb out and give us an update on that drain pipe.

Don't know why folks start threads and leave u hangin by not finishing them.

 

[shepherd]

would that be an ash plank strapped to your ash kidr?

 

[JSUnlimited]

Don't know why folks start threads and leave u hangin by not finishing them.

Well sometimes things happen. To follow up a post I started on TBN may not be a priority. However I obviously have found time to do it now. I've been really busy lately....family health issues, work, kids, etc.

 

[JSUnlimited]

To eliminate the immediate danger of the hole, I took my TC24DA with the hoe and pulled some dirt in from the sides just to cover things up. I really did not want to mess with it but I did not know when ODNR would get out here to look at it. I have 2 Jack Russels and a 5 year old running around here plus the people I allow to come down here to go fishing.

Someone earlier mentioned about where the spouting drain goes. It comes right at you looking at these pics and runs over the hill.

 

[JB4310]

Wow. I didn't realize it was that close to your house, thought it was out in a field somewhere.

I doubt it had anything to do with mining and probably more to do with the construction of the home. Poor backfilling, backfilling an extra large hole without compacting or burying organic materials like brush and stumps etc.

Do you have a basement there, often times when we find a sinkhole close to the foundation it means the silt/soil got washed down a footing drain system, or any perforated type storm water management system. Flowing with the path the storm water takes, yours is about twice as big as the biggest I've seen though, and it would usually show up causing storm water back up in basement.

Keep us informed. curious

JB.

 

[JSUnlimited]

ODNR came out and looked at it. I gave the guy prints of the "before" and explained to him what had happened. I also explained to him why I screwed with it as well. He seemed to understand.

A week or so I received a letter from him. It stated the following,

"An investigation was conducted on your property on April 6, 2009 regarding a hole that had opened suddenly next to a building. It is suspected that the ground feature was due to underground mine subsidence. To be eligible for the Abandoned Mine Land Emergency Program, a site must be mining related, a recent sudden event and present an immediate threat to public health and safety. As the hole has since been filled in, there is not at present an immediate threat to public health and safety. You indicated that the repair measures may only be temporary, thus you are advised to monitor the area and should conditions change that wouldn't warrant additional investigation, please contact this office at ***-***-****."

 

[JSUnlimited]

Wow. I didn't realize it was that close to your house, thought it was out in a field somewhere.

I doubt it had anything to do with mining and probably more to do with the construction of the home. Poor backfilling, backfilling an extra large hole without compacting or burying organic materials like brush and stumps etc.

Do you have a basement there, often times when we find a sinkhole close to the foundation it means the silt/soil got washed down a footing drain system, or any perforated type storm water management system. Flowing with the path the storm water takes, yours is about twice as big as the biggest I've seen though, and it would usually show up causing storm water back up in basement.

Keep us informed. curious

JB.

This was a pole garage built across the way from my house last summer. While cutting in the "pad" and drilling holes, there was no indication of any issues. This is what is looks like....has nothing to do with the house. The house was built in '02.

 

[JB4310]

Looking closer at the pics I see the topography slopes to the house and I see the leader pipe goes under ground, it looks like an area some one would of installed storm water management system across the back of the house, maybe going to daylight on the other side or to a catch basin.

Once the water sits in a low spot it creates a funnel effect progressively getting worse, we would line the hole with filter fabric before filling to try and attempt to stop silt from flowing with the water.

Good Luck,

JB.

 

[JB4310]

OK. was there filling going on there? and can't the mine people tell you for sure if there was a mine under the property, seems to small and to close the surface to be mine related. But I honestly know very little about mining.

Where does that leader pipe go and is there a perforated pipe set in stone around the building?

EDIT: Looking at the last pic it looks like some kind of drainage would have been done between the building and the slope?

JB.

 

[JSUnlimited]

Looking closer at the pics I see the topography slopes to the house and I see the leader pipe goes under ground, it looks like an area some one would of installed storm water management system across the back of the house, maybe going to daylight on the other side or to a catch basin.}

Once the water sits in a low spot it creates a funnel effect progressively getting worse, we would line the hole with filter fabric before filling to try and attempt to stop silt from flowing with the water.

Good Luck,

JB.[/QUOTE}

Okay thanks for the info.....

Anyways, after the rain we've had here is what it looks like. Now, please understand something..... I plan to put into place a drainage system that is the same as what I've done with the side of the house.