i know it's reality...

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BlackOps

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northern middle tn
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Mahindra Max 25
last year after and during excessively cold weather and snow that i needed the tractor - no start - fuel just too cold. been treating it with the diesel anti-gel stuff all year just to have it in the tank for when needed - again been close to zero for a week or so and expect to have 8"" of snow or so and went to start it today - errrrrrrrr errrrrr errrrr errrrrr errrrrrr errrrrr. **** - charges the battery a few times and tried to start and even doubled the glowplugs before each try - notta. got dark so had to leave the charge as is and stop for the night. will try tomorrow - may be a bit warmer. 20's almost 30 maybe??? today - should be above 32 for a while but 23 or 20 tonight. yes it is outside and no way to put it in any building - shed way to small and no other shelter. just a reality of what i got going on. But ****...when i need it for this snow scene- i get stuck having to shovel - a lot to shovel and am an old man.

just a story...
 
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Sounds like your glow plugs are not working properly or you need to run them longer. Make sure the glow plugs are getting 12volts on them. On my old tractor I need to run them at least a minute when below freezing. Even with that it sometimes takes a 2nd or 3rd try but the glow plugs are a must or it wouldn't start. If the engine doesn't catch the first couple seconds then it gets more glow plug time. When there's enough heat it fires right up.
 
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the glow plug light comes on and after so long they go off and i was told to start. so even after the light goes out you mean to let it keep heating for another 15" or 30" and then try to start? thank you!
 
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On some stubborn diesel's, I'll blast an (elec) heat gun or hair dryer in to the intake as close to the "point of use" or the cylinders as I can. The longer the better but at least as long as your glow plug cycle. Keep it going during cranking and until you have a solid idle.
 
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How old is this tractor? The model looks pretty new. First thing I would do is put a volt/ohm meter on each glow plug with the other end grounded then turn them on. If you have 12volts on each one then measure each one to ground (key off, meter set to ohms). It should show as low resistance seeing they are heating elements. You could have one that is bad. You could try running the glow plug cycle a few times in a row to see if that helps. Something is not working properly, you put anti-gel in the fuel so that shouldn't be the issue.
 
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On some stubborn diesel's, I'll blast an (elec) heat gun or hair dryer in to the intake as close to the "point of use" or the cylinders as I can. The longer the better but at least as long as your glow plug cycle. Keep it going during cranking and until you have a solid idle.

I was thinking a Halogen light close to the intake area may also help. It would need to be on there for at least 30 mins.
 
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Have you installed a block heater or a hose heater?

last year after and during excessively cold weather and snow that i needed the tractor - no start - fuel just too cold. been treating it with the diesel anti-gel stuff all year just to have it in the tank for when needed - again been close to zero for a week or so and expect to have 8"" of snow or so and went to start it today - errrrrrrrr errrrrr errrrr errrrrr errrrrrr errrrrr. **** - charges the battery a few times and tried to start and even doubled the glowplugs before each try - notta. got dark so had to leave the charge as is and stop for the night. will try tomorrow - may be a bit warmer. 20's almost 30 maybe??? today - should be above 32 for a while but 23 or 20 tonight. yes it is outside and no way to put it in any building - shed way to small and no other shelter. just a reality of what i got going on. But ****...when i need it for this snow scene- i get stuck having to shovel - a lot to shovel and am an old man.

just a story...
 
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I once had to thaw out a car engine with a torpedo heater and a moving blanket to get it to start. I used the blanket to build a makeshift tent from the open hood to the torpedo heater and warmed the engine that way. However it was really cold when I did that, about -30F. At the temps you describe my guess is glow plugs not working or just cycle them longer. I cycle mine for 30 sec and it has always fired right up. You could also try a block heater or oil pan heater if you can get electricity to the tractor.
 
   / i know it's reality... #9  
last year after and during excessively cold weather and snow that i needed the tractor - no start - fuel just too cold. been treating it with the diesel anti-gel stuff all year just to have it in the tank for when needed - again been close to zero for a week or so and expect to have 8"" of snow or so and went to start it today - errrrrrrrr errrrrr errrrr errrrrr errrrrrr errrrrr. **** - charges the battery a few times and tried to start and even doubled the glowplugs before each try - notta. got dark so had to leave the charge as is and stop for the night. will try tomorrow - may be a bit warmer. 20's almost 30 maybe??? today - should be above 32 for a while but 23 or 20 tonight. yes it is outside and no way to put it in any building - shed way to small and no other shelter. just a reality of what i got going on. But ****...when i need it for this snow scene- i get stuck having to shovel - a lot to shovel and am an old man. just a story...
i noticed you have a mahindra. These are hard starting when cold out..... Coworker has one and his wont start under 25 or so degrees. He s ays his glow plugs are working but im not sure. My Kubota fires up below zero with about 10 seconds on glow.... Dance:)
 
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last year after and during excessively cold weather and snow that i needed the tractor - no start - fuel just too cold. been treating it with the diesel anti-gel stuff all year just to have it in the tank for when needed - again been close to zero for a week or so and expect to have 8"" of snow or so and went to start it today - errrrrrrrr errrrrr errrrr errrrrr errrrrrr errrrrr. **** - charges the battery a few times and tried to start and even doubled the glowplugs before each try - notta. got dark so had to leave the charge as is and stop for the night. will try tomorrow - may be a bit warmer. 20's almost 30 maybe??? today - should be above 32 for a while but 23 or 20 tonight. yes it is outside and no way to put it in any building - shed way to small and no other shelter. just a reality of what i got going on. But ****...when i need it for this snow scene- i get stuck having to shovel - a lot to shovel and am an old man.

just a story...

my old ford 3000 (1967) is a real hard starting tractor in the cold weather -but with a block heater (main coolant line) and just a cheap poly tarp large enough to completely cover the tractor it has started at -35*f no problem. If you can get a coolant block heater to fit, that tractor should start like it's 70* outside. jmo
 

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