I Need an Earth-Mover-Thingie-Doo-Dad

[SPIKER]

haveblue:

we built some for bigger machines and boss still has one for 85 or so HP, we could build one for smaller ones and was planning on it but never got around to it, the material is at our shop just he lost interest in everything since his unkle has big$ and is very old ... go figure. anyhow we have some pics posted http://www.haynncorp.com click the forsale link and if they pics aren't there anymore then try

http://www.bright.net/~pfryman/forsale

they used Hydraulics but the boss likes making these types of things, maybe send him a e-mail to gerold@haynncorp.com and ask about small earth pan. he is really smart at figuring out mechanical hinge setups to pick & pull. uses cardboard and pins and razer blade to cut & form and them pinn them together so it all moves then builds out of steel.

Mark M
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[MikeIA]

Could you enlarge the bucket of a three point scoop, then add a frame and a rear axle? With fluffy soil, just making the box taller might increase the capacity enough.

Mike

 

[Darren]

There's an amazing assortment of attachments on the market for tractors. Some are quite specialized and most folks, even searching TBN, might not find the implement that was designed to do exactly what they want. I lucked out and saw the ad for the scraper in Small Farm magazine. They also make a small padfoot roller for compacting soil.

That's the beauty of TBN. Even if it's unusual, most times someone has an answer.

 

[have_blue]

Wooooo hooo! What a beauty! I even like the color! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I suppose a 5 footer that holds around 2 yards of dirt would do the trick, and my tractor could easily pull it if it were made right.

Still, there are hydraulics and only 1 axle on that design. I would have to figure how to operate the blade and dump outlet with the 3 point hitch and cables. It would need 2 axles with the scraper blade in between, and a long wheelbase to avoid terrain following.

Your guy does excellent fab, and I enjoyed browsing through his stuff.

 

[have_blue]

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Yea, that's true. But I need to fab my own. I wasn't joking when I said I'm on a tight budget. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif That's why I posted in "Do it Yourself". What I am really looking for are pictures and ideas for building my own. I'm not too proud to copy from a commercial unit and adapting it for my own specific needs. The pictures I have seen up to now are far from the ghetto implement I will wind up with, but they do give me ideas to borrow.

 

[DaveInColorado]

I expect that renting a big front loader for a day would be about the cheapest way to do it. Or rent a big dozer if you don't have far to go. $500 gets a huge machine! I am unfamiliar with what the rental firms require as far as operator training to rent the big items. I've been able to borrow from friends so this isn't a problem. A big loader with 5' high tires is not any more difficult to work than a CUT, in my opinion. Send the kids to Grandma's while working with it. You can't see or hear them and they won't realize the danger of running up to Dad while he's working.

 

[dixiedrifter]

I worked last summer at an earth moving company as the fuel man, but I learned a whole heck of a lot while I was there and even got to run all of the machinery when an operator needed a break or what not.

We used big 623F CAT scrapers similar to what your thinking of using, cept they would haul about 16 yards of dirt at a time.

Using a scraper/dirt pan alone it is very hard to drag up a load of hard dirt. You'd put scraper bowl on the ground and pull and the scraper would spin its tires out trying to go. Mind you the tires were about 6 foot tall and about 3 feet wide. I imagine the same principle would be with a small tractor. You just couldn't get enough traction to drag up a load.

So to get our loads of dirt we had push tractors, which were D9 CAT dozers. You'd get on the scraper and pull in front of the dozer and set the bowl down all the way. The scraper itself will put enough down pressure on the bowl that it could raise the back wheels clean off the ground.

When that dozer got behind it you could cut trench about 7 feet wide and about 6 inches deep and if you wiggled the bowl control stick right you could get a load in less than 100 feet.

So taking my limited experience into consideration and it were me, and I did not have to move the dirt very far, I would just hire a larger dozer to move it for me and be done with it.

If the dirt had to be moved a considerable distance I would buy a used dirt pan that would hold as many yards as the tractor I owned could pull loaded, then weld on a bumper and hire out a D4 dozer to push it.

Alternatively, you could by a smaller unit and put sideboards on it to get the higher capacity.

When your done, just turn around and sell the sucker.

 

[Dozernut]

Here is an idea I thought I would throw out. Attached is a picture of a Beaver grader. It is non-hydraulic and controlled by the 3pt. hitch. With a little imagination and tinkering you could substitute a trip bucket for the blade.

 

[caddison]

One alternative would be to use your tractor and rent a dump trailer to pull behind the tractor or pick up or rent a dump truck. Some jobs take a little longer with the CUT by I personally enjoy every minute of seat time I get and the longer the project the better I like it, even better when a skid loader is involved /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif!

 

[Darren]

There's a bit more to consider. Maintaining a pan ain't cheap. Even if you decide to push load, probbaly not needed, the push dozers usually have special short push blades to avoid cutting a scraper tire. The normal rental unit won't have that blade. In heavy stuff such as shot rock, dozers may be double headed to reduce loading time. If so the lead dozer will have a push block on the back to take up the shock of the second dozer.

If all he's dealing with is topsoil an elevating (self loading) scraper might work or a double barrel (two engined) Terex TS14. Unfortunately if you can find a cheap machine it just means you get to fork out big bucks for repairs.