I want something the next size up from my L series. But don't know what to look for?

   / I want something the next size up from my L series. But don't know what to look for?
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#21  
Sounds like you are making a decision like a made a few months ago.

I borrowed my neighbors L3840 and finished my cutting. I spun it out on some hills that our old Massey just went up no problem (it was in 2WD and had R4's, I am sure R1's would help). I determined that I wanted something heavier and bigger.

That's why I loaded my rears, I was trying to move snow last winter and couldn't push it up my (not steep at all) driveway, the tires would just spin even in 4x4.

I do know for a fact I want something heavier, and more capable, as you described.

It's not helping that my new neighbor has a 5000 series deere with cab, not sure what it is, but I see him grading the road a lot on it, and next time I'm gonna stop him and see if I can take a looksy.
 
   / I want something the next size up from my L series. But don't know what to look for?
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#22  
We came up with something else for the John Deere; little cheaper, but more trouble.

OUCH!


What seems to work for me is having a well ballasted yet small footprint CUT with plenty of hp and the ehydro.
I'm going to try and pay more attention when using my tractor, in regards to if I could be doing the same work with a larger frame tractor, and see if I notice many instances that would prohibit me from using a larger tractor.

When I went looking at the larger frames, they weren't as big as I once thought they were. I was looking at some of AKfish's pics comparing his new tractor to the 110, and it did look huge compared to that, so I'll have to pay more attention next time I go sitting in the cabs at the dealership.....if they let me. :D



Piston, be sure to look at all the Korean tractors and the Mahindras. You ask about certain sizes and capabilities and price range, that is going to limit your choices to used. I don't think that you will find anything new, the size that you want for $30k. If the budget goes up, nice things can be acquired new.

Certainly will take a look! Any in particular? Part of the confusion for me is getting my brain wrapped around all the different makes and models' codes for everything. I really like the new Kioti RX6010 from the online looks of it, but now that I've learned that I "NEED" :laughing: a hydro power reverser that one is out... :laughing:

I know I won't be able to buy a new tractor, it's not in the cards now and won't be in a couple years when I'm ready, so I'm planning on buying something that will be maybe 5 yrs old or so. My estimate of what I can spend is about 30k, but it's still far away before I can really pull the trigger, so maybe I can get a little more saved up :D
 
   / I want something the next size up from my L series. But don't know what to look for?
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#23  
Sorry that I keep posting some random thoughts, but I have to post as I think of them or I'll forget.....

One of the main reasons I want a cab aside from the obvious comfort, is because I've always wanted a FEL mounted snowblower (a whole nother thread all together:laughing:) and I don't want one without a cab! I can't think of anything cooler than riding a long the driveway at slow speed at dawn or dusk blowing a foot of fresh snow out of the way. It would be almost meditative!

I used to take my motorcycles out for rides when I needed to just relax, now I find myself hopping on my tractor and driving it up the road. (I've always lived on dead end streets with no traffic)
 
   / I want something the next size up from my L series. But don't know what to look for? #24  
I'll try to address everything:

Yes and no. The FEL lift capacity of a comparable framed tractor isn't all that much different than mine is.
I think it has more to do with what the units are intended for, I'm trying to make my CUT tractor do more work than it was designed for. I'm well aware of the ongoing debate of 'bota's are lightweight' and don't want this to turn into another one of those threads :laughing:
;)

Thank goodness as it gets a little tiresome especially since everyone in my area including the John Deere owners have to add weight to get them "just right."


I do think I'd appreciate a bigger cab, but I see where a bigger tractor can also be cumbersome.

Also, what is this I am reading about a "buddy seat"? That could be a huge selling point to the wife now that we have our first child on the way....FINALLY! :D:D:D:D:D
I'm gonna need a spot for the kid to sit when he/she gets old enough :thumbsup:

The buddy seat is certainly worth considering. We had one in our CX80 and it was really handy for my son to take a child with him.
 
   / I want something the next size up from my L series. But don't know what to look for? #25  
As far as Mahindra, look at the 6010HST. I personally would be looking at an 8560, but that is a lot bigger than you want.
 
   / I want something the next size up from my L series. But don't know what to look for? #26  
How about it?

bp fick, what's the numbers on the hood of that one in your photo, I can't quite make them out.

Also the OP, I'd look at the Kubota M108S, it's not that much more than a fully loaded L5740 but a lot more tractor according to the specs.
 
   / I want something the next size up from my L series. But don't know what to look for?
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#27  
Also the OP, I'd look at the Kubota M108S, it's not that much more than a fully loaded L5740 but a lot more tractor according to the specs.

I think I need to draw the line somewhere! :laughing: Remember we're talkin about my 30acres of forested land here. :D However, 3k pound lift at the FEL would be very nice!


I wrote a list of things I'll be doing with the tractor, and maybe you guys can help me out by giving me your thoughts on whether or not I'm on the right track in needing a larger tractor.

I'll try to make it short.....:D

I'll be using the tractor on 30 acres of forested land, there are already some nice trails (wide enough for a pickup truck) going through the property. I'll be putting in an 800' driveway and clearing a few acres prior to buying my next tractor (most likely it will be after the house is built for financial reasons)

-I'm really liking the idea of the buddy seat since I'd like the next tractor I buy to be my last for a good 20 yrs or so, and if my kid is anything like me, he/she will want to be in the cab with me.

-Eventually clear more land making a couple of small 3-5 acre fields over time for wildlife, then keep it mowed with a rotary mower

-Box blade or land plane for maintaining the rough trails after skidding logs

-skidding logs with a 3pt grapple

-I will do a lot of firewood processing but not commercially, just for my own use but I like to heat primarily with wood.

-Being in the 'granite state', there are a LOT of rocks on the land. I would like to sift out a lot of these rocks that are on the surface with a rock bucket. There are already 3 large piles of rocks on the propery, one pile is about 30' x 70' and a few feet high. I'd like to eventually move these rock piles and hope to use some of them for my chimney.

-Pick up heavy logs for my sawmill, I very often can't lift the full logs off the ground with my current setup, mostly because I can't cut the logs to the standard 8' as I'm milling large/long timbers.

-Mow thick brush with a HD rotary mower to clear out more land

-I mostly use the FEL with grapple, and it is rated for 2,500lbs, I'd like to be able to use close to the full rated capacity, the unit weighs 500lbs so a lift capacity of close to 3k would be required to max it out, I know that's a little high but my aim would be the best lift capacity without going "too big" of a tractor.

-Rake up slash/branches/debris with landscape rake

-I like to palletize firewood, and would move the pallets around with the FEL and 3pt hitch.
-I also palletize my lumber, when it's green, it's very heavy and I can't take a full pallet full on the FEL. I can lift it with the 3pt hitch but can't get it high enough with that to stack it.

-I'd like to run a snowblower on the FEL to clear my driveway

-I will maintain 2 other gravel driveways that are fairly short (family) and also share the maintenance of roughly 1,200' of gravel road (the road starts off at 12%-15% grade then levels out, it's town owned but not town maintained, it will be up to my neighbor who maintains it now, and myself, as I'd like to be a good neighbor and 'share' the duties when we move there)

-I would possibly buy a stump grinder similar to the one Pclausen just bought for his new 5085 (I think it was him) as I'll have a lot of stumps to deal with.

I know I could do a lot of this work with a smaller framed tractor, but there are some things that I can't do with my current tractor, which is why I'm thinking of this upgrade. My current tractor is paid off and the money I got for it would be used towards the new one. As much as I'd like to upgrade now, I think realistically I'm 2 yrs away, which is okay with me because I want to get the rough sitework done before I get a cab for obvious reasons.


I keep going back to thinking that it doesn't make sense for someone like me, who doesn't use the tractor commercially, and has very little land compared to many, to upgrade to the size tractors I'd like? From what I'm seeing, especially after reading AKfish's posts, it doesn't sound like the price is all that much different for a 4720 than the M series. I don' think the physical size of the larger tractor would prohibit me from doing many things I currently do.

Any more thoughts?
 
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   / I want something the next size up from my L series. But don't know what to look for?
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I was on the JD website and they have the 'compare' feature, I compared the following models that they had listed as 'comparable'.
Are these models truly comparable? Or does Deere list them because they're all lighter weight than all of them? I was shocked to see the M6040 a full 3k pounds less than the 5065M? Is that correct?

John Deere 5065M
Case IH JX55
Mahindra 6000
Montana 5720
Montana 5740
Case IH Farmal 65C
Kubota M5140
Kubota M6040
New Holland T4020
New Holland TN60
Massey Ferguson 451

I guess I can't upload an excel file?
I compared here: JohnDeere 5065M Utility Tractor 5M Series Utility Tractors JohnDeere.com
 

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