I wonder if I can make this work

[ovrszd]

I would like to chime in but Mine sits flat and it dosent matter how my bucket is?? I really do not know why but it sits flat floating or if I insert my down pressure bracket. Tomorrow in the 14 inches of wet snow I will let you know what I see and how it works.:thumbsup:

If you change the height of the point where it fastens to your FEL, the angle of the swivel pin will change, and one end of the blade will rise while the other end lowers, if the blade is angled. Only way it won't is if your swivel mechanism is so sloppy that it compensates. Simple mathematics. Has no choice. Same mathematical laws apply to a truck mounted blade, blade angled, raised for carrying, and forward end is high, rearward end is low.

 

[Ole Orange]

If you change the height of the point where it fastens to your FEL, the angle of the swivel pin will change, and one end of the blade will rise while the other end lowers, if the blade is angled. Only way it won't is if your swivel mechanism is so sloppy that it compensates. Simple mathematics. Has no choice. Same mathematical laws apply to a truck mounted blade, blade angled, raised for carrying, and forward end is high, rearward end is low.

OK got it never noticed because mine raises with the bucket and floats separate of the bucket, on the ground it sets flat angled or not. you can see pics on page 2 here.

 

[vulcancowboy]

If you change the height of the point where it fastens to your FEL, the angle of the swivel pin will change, and one end of the blade will rise while the other end lowers, if the blade is angled. Only way it won't is if your swivel mechanism is so sloppy that it compensates. Simple mathematics. Has no choice. Same mathematical laws apply to a truck mounted blade, blade angled, raised for carrying, and forward end is high, rearward end is low.

OK, I've been rolling this around in the ol' noggin & I think I know what you mean. Thanks!

 

[Ole Orange]

If you change the height of the point where it fastens to your FEL, the angle of the swivel pin will change, and one end of the blade will rise while the other end lowers, if the blade is angled. Only way it won't is if your swivel mechanism is so sloppy that it compensates. Simple mathematics. Has no choice. Same mathematical laws apply to a truck mounted blade, blade angled, raised for carrying, and forward end is high, rearward end is low.

Well just plowed 12+ inches and low and behold I was wrong! the blade does angle with bucket curl and although I did not realize this, when I plowed I used it to my advantage and curled the bucket to compensate for the crown in the road. after the thaw we had last week the dirt road is very soft and this helped stop digging it up. Thanks OVRSZD for the insight.

 

[vulcancowboy]

Well just plowed 12+ inches and low and behold I was wrong! the blade does angle with bucket curl and although I did not realize this, when I plowed I used it to my advantage and curled the bucket to compensate for the crown in the road. after the thaw we had last week the dirt road is very soft and this helped stop digging it up. Thanks OVRSZD for the insight.

So what you're saying is, when you curl your bucket back and the edge of the bucked comes into contact with the plow frame, it changes the angle? Overall, how did it do for you?

 

[Ole Orange]

So what you're saying is, when you curl your bucket back and the edge of the bucked comes into contact with the plow frame, it changes the angle? Overall, how did it do for you?

Did great!! I will most likely use my truck for my 3/4 mile road and use the tractor for winging back the banks as it is what I built it for, but I used the tractor for the whole road and only got hung up in the same dip I hang up my truck when I plow. And no I did not look like a drunken sailor. as a matter of fact it worked better than I planned. I could control the cutting edge and not dig up the road and push snow 6 feet into the woods. the power angle is the way to go though as you can turn and scoop snow with it. overall really happy using it on 12 inches of heavy wet snow.:drink:

 

[vulcancowboy]

I went out today and analyzed my setup. When the blade is angled, the plow needs to be sitting almost on the edge of the bucket AND the bucket needs to be almost on the ground in order for the plow to be level. As I see it, I have 3 options:
1. Use it as is
2. Lower the mount in the bucket (not possible given the construction of the bucket)
3. Replace/modify the cutting edge so that it makes contact with the ground sooner

Thoughts?

 

[ovrszd]

Yeah, I could see that problem coming from the first pictures you posted. Requires a total rebuild to fix. I'd try to use it as is and see if you can get by.

Not trying to downgrade your build, but, if the FEL bucket is QA, I would have dropped the bucket and built the blade with a QA receiver. Maybe that's not an option in your situation. Two things are gained. You eliminated this vertical challenge that you have now. You move the blade closer to the tractor which makes it perform better.

 

[vulcancowboy]

Yeah, I could see that problem coming from the first pictures you posted. Requires a total rebuild to fix. I'd try to use it as is and see if you can get by.

Not trying to downgrade your build, but, if the FEL bucket is QA, I would have dropped the bucket and built the blade with a QA receiver. Maybe that's not an option in your situation. Two things are gained. You eliminated this vertical challenge that you have now. You move the blade closer to the tractor which makes it perform better.

Unfortunately, it is not a QA. I can use it as is and see how things work. Thanks for all the help!

 

[ovrszd]

Unfortunately, it is not a QA. I can use it as is and see how things work. Thanks for all the help!

My Brother bought his Kubota L3240 without QA. Immediately realized he needed/wanted it. Went to the dealer and bought the QA head for the FEL frame, don't know cost. Then I converted his bucket. Might be something you find a need for as time goes along.

Sorry to sidetrack the discussion.